Vision 2025 Extension - Package Details

[Townsend]

Vision Presentation:

https://gilcrease.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Vision-Presentation_final4.pdf

[swake]

Vision Presentation:

https://gilcrease.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Vision-Presentation_final4.pdf

I had no idea it was that big a project. Gilcrease really needs it.

[Conan71]

Who knew Gilcrease sits on 460 acres?

[PonderInc]

Hopefully all those windows will have UV protection... or we're going to have a large collection of sun-faded art!

[AdamsHall]

Old and Busted versus New Hotness....

I recognize that one.

[sooneralum2012]

If anyone wants to watch the painful sausage being made... You can watch the whole debate on TGov. (Doesn't work on all browsers, but does work on Internet Explorer.)

Here's my very incomplete summary of what happened at the meeting with timestamps if you want to view online.  I didn't capture everything everyone said.  The notes below reflect my bias and interests.  

Here's the first half:

2h:39:45 – Bartlett – talks about the little meetings that went on all day with some of the councilors.  "We can't have everyone in the same room at the same time because of open meeting laws." (Uh... there may be a reason for that...)

not sure if this has recieved the heat that it should but Dear LORD.  What a scum bag.  Here is the exact quote.

"we obviously cannot have all you in the same room at the same time because of open meeting laws".

Having moved here from OKC less than two years ago I never expected my mayor to actively & openly admit to dodging public accountability, especially when it comes to something as important as this vote.  It is becoming clear to me though how lucky OKC is to have Cornett and just how much Dewey is holding Tulsa back.

[heironymouspasparagus]

I recognize that one.

Was hoping someone would pick up on that.  It was buried pretty deep at the end of that post....

[sooneralum2012]

The final package includes $57,000,000 for transit, which will fund the Peoria BRT, Route 66 (11th St) BRT, Councilor Ewing's Center of the Universe transit hub in downtown, and the downtown/midtown circulator. It will also increase frequency on existing routes by 50%, extend evening service, improve Saturday service and introduce Sunday service for the first time in Tulsa Transit's history. It's a huge watershed moment for transit in Tulsa. It's the proposal most likely to truly transform Tulsa, from the way we get around, access to jobs, and the way our city is built. It also creates new opportunities for revitalization and infill development in neighborhoods near the new BRT lines.

do we have renderings or any idea about how "rapid" this system will be?  Curious as to if the buses will have the right of way, their own segregated lane, etc.

[Conan71]

do we have renderings or any idea about how "rapid" this system will be?  Curious as to if the buses will have the right of way, their own segregated lane, etc.

"segregation" and "buses" in the same sentence is sort of a touchy subject....

[sooneralum2012]

"segregation" and "buses" in the same sentence is sort of a touchy subject....

ha...SEPERATED. lets use that word.

But this is what im talking about

Ideal:




More realistic:

[Hoss]

Was hoping someone would pick up on that.  It was buried pretty deep at the end of that post....

I recognized it too.  If the youtube embed function wasn't disabled, I was going to post the relevant scene. 

[DowntownDan]

do we have renderings or any idea about how "rapid" this system will be?  Curious as to if the buses will have the right of way, their own segregated lane, etc.

I think it just means more frequent service and buses dedicated to those streets.  Traffic on 11th and on Peoria isn't bad enough, in my opinion, to need a separate lane for the bus to improve efficiency.  If they just operate more often it'll be a huge deal because a main reason many (including myself) don't use the bus is the long wait time between service.  Much faster to just use the car.

[Dspike]

Bus Rapid Transit details. Not sure if this flyer is out of date, but it lists details, including:

15 minute frequency during peak hours
New stations with real-time arrival screens
Traffic signal priority to allow the bus to remain on schedule

http://tulsatransit.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/TulsaBRTFactSheet.pdf

[dsjeffries]

do we have renderings or any idea about how "rapid" this system will be?  Curious as to if the buses will have the right of way, their own segregated lane, etc.

Here is a map displaying both BRT lines. The Peoria BRT will not have its own dedicated lanes, but 11th Street is probably wide enough to accommodate that. They will have stops every half-mile, and control the traffic lights as they approach them. I'm really, really excited about this. Within one-half mile of these two BRT routes, there are 72,000 jobs and 86,000 residents. 3,758 households along the routes have no vehicle. 46.6% of households served by the BRT routes only have one vehicle available. That's 17,000 households that will suddenly have access to rapid, reliable transportation. This is huge.

[TulsaGoldenHurriCAN]

Here is a map displaying both BRT lines. The Peoria BRT will not have its own dedicated lanes, but 11th Street is probably wide enough to accommodate that. They will have stops every half-mile, and control the traffic lights as they approach them. I'm really, really excited about this. Within one-half mile of these two BRT routes, there are 72,000 jobs and 86,000 residents. 3,758 households along the routes have no vehicle. 46.6% of households served by the BRT routes only have one vehicle available. That's 17,000 households that will suddenly have access to rapid, reliable transportation. This is huge.

That looks and sounds great! I would definitely take the bus from time to time if I could rely on it being quicker and in shorter intervals. It would be nice for the walkability of any places along those routes and would definitely put them a shoe-up on suburbs, especially for anyone wanting to be in an urban area and for those who can't or don't want to drive.

Also, I can't wait to see the bus stop-light showdowns that are bound to occur at 11th and Peoria!