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[BKDotCom]

What's your definition of an "automatic" weapon or "machine gun"?
Do you think they should be more heavily regulated than a semi-auto weapon?

[TeeDub]

What's your definition of an "automatic" weapon or "machine gun"?
Do you think they should be more heavily regulated than a semi-auto weapon?

Not sure who this was aimed at....  but...

I would imagine most everyone's definition is similar...   A gun that will fire more than one round per action (in this instance, the trigger pull.)   If it only fires once per action, then it is semi-automatic.

I don't have a real problem with automatics being more heavily regulated (as they are today.)

[heironymouspasparagus]

Not sure who this was aimed at....  but...

I would imagine most everyone's definition is similar...   A gun that will fire more than one round per action (in this instance, the trigger pull.)   If it only fires once per action, then it is semi-automatic.

I don't have a real problem with automatics being more heavily regulated (as they are today.)

That is the only definition - as per ATF - one trigger pull required for each bullet fired.

[BKDotCom]

That is the only definition - as per ATF - one trigger pull required for each bullet fired.

Sounds more like that's the definition the NRA lobbied for.

"depends on what the definition of is is"

I would imagine most everyone's definition is similar...   A gun that will fire more than one round per action (in this instance, the trigger pull.)

I would argue that definition only applies to gun enthusiasts.    
Everyone else's definition: if I pull the trigger, does the gun continue to fire until I move my finger.

[TeeDub]

Everyone else's definition: if I pull the trigger, does the gun continue to fire until I move my finger.

That sounds fine as well.   Still doesn't' change a "bump fire" to a full auto.  Nor does it make a "binary" trigger (the new way to fire faster) a full auto.

[erfalf]

Blame physics. Bump stock today, rubber bands tomorrow. They are literally the same thing.

[swake]

It's just a rubber band.

https://youtu.be/hCCT8JtwQeI

[erfalf]

It's just a rubber band.

https://youtu.be/hCCT8JtwQeI

I forget the literal police are on the board...

[swake]

I forget the literal police are on the board...

Your word. And the fact that you don't understand the definition of literal is figuratively shocking.

[TeeDub]

And....   This technique has been around since semi autos were a thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBQrtzSdVDo

[erfalf]

Your word. And the fact that you don't understand the definition of literal is figuratively shocking.

pancakes are you talking about.

Don't misjudge the human capacity for ingenuity. I think you are wildly underestimating it.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Sounds more like that's the definition the NRA lobbied for.

"depends on what the definition of is is"

I would argue that definition only applies to gun enthusiasts.    
Everyone else's definition: if I pull the trigger, does the gun continue to fire until I move my finger.

That is what fully automatic has always been - pull once shoot many.  Semi-auto - pull once, shoot once.

[BKDotCom]

That is what fully automatic has always been - pull once shoot many.  Semi-auto - pull once, shoot once.

if your finger is stationary and the gun is moving against your finger to repeatedly fire. Is that pull once?  Sounds like "pull once" to me.
A single pull initiates perpetual pullage with no further finger movement required.

semantics

[heironymouspasparagus]

And....   This technique has been around since semi autos were a thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBQrtzSdVDo

Love the M1 !  One of the best rifles ever, until the M14.  Have shot literally (and figuratively) dozens of them - still have one.  

In combat, gotta carry an extra empty clip or two to throw while there are still bullets in the gun - fool the enemy - they would listen for the 'ping' of the clip being ejected, then could rise up and advance 'cause you had to reload.


Edit;
Listen for the clip 'ping' at about 3:25.

[heironymouspasparagus]

if your finger is stationary and the gun is moving against your finger to repeatedly fire. Is that pull once?  Sounds like "pull once" to me.
A single pull initiates perpetual pullage with no further finger movement required.

semantics

Yeah, cause you are really pulling the trigger for every round.  Whether your finger is moving or the gun.