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Started by TulsaMoon, July 08, 2016, 02:36:04 PM

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swake

Quote from: cannon_fodder on November 16, 2016, 08:12:32 AM
My point wasn't to say Trump is Hitler - my point was that the Trump campaign adopted racist and nationalistic language. People keep saying the campaign didn't appeal to racists or didn't use racist language in that appeal. But when you compare the language used, it compares unfavorably to language used by noted racists from history.

Seriously, which of the quotes I posted could you not attribute to the Trump campaign?

Again, Trump is not Hitler. But the language he employed during the campaign was racist and nationalistic.



People now want excuses for their votes, "it wasn't really a racist campaign, I'm not a racist". In a few months they are going to deny they ever voted for Trump. Most of the people being assembled around Trump now (Giuliani as Sec of State????) are terrible people with no experience. The adults are being kicked out of the room. The rules for appointments seem to be how much Donald butt you kissed. And people thought the Carter admin was incompetent.  

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: swake on November 16, 2016, 10:25:17 AM

And people thought the Carter admin was incompetent.  



They only think that because they are stupid.  And sadly, and more importantly, have no knowledge of history or the events surrounding his term as well as those of his predecessor and successor.  And are too intellectually lazy and intellectually dishonest to do more of an investigation than to listen to Rush Limbaugh sound bites.



"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

BKDotCom

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on November 16, 2016, 01:38:46 PM
And are too intellectually lazy and intellectually dishonest to do more of an investigation than to listen to Rush Limbaugh sound bites.

Do you have a better source for sound bites?!

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: BKDotCom on November 16, 2016, 01:53:39 PM
Do you have a better source for sound bites?!


Hannity.
O'Reilly.
Coulter.



All equally "sound-bitey"...

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.


erfalf

Let's not blame Hillary or anything by making the monumentally bone headed move that let herself be open to these very types of attacks. Just saying.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

swake

Quote from: erfalf on November 21, 2016, 03:01:42 PM
Let's not blame Hillary or anything by making the monumentally bone headed move that let herself be open to these very types of attacks. Just saying.

None of these emails came from her server and none of her emails have ever been released from a hack. So what exactly are you babbling about?

The DNC server was hacked, as was Podesta's personal email and I think it was the DNC's house reelection server. Not Clinton's.


erfalf

Quote from: swake on November 21, 2016, 03:09:20 PM
None of these emails came from her server and none of her emails have ever been released from a hack. So what exactly are you babbling about?

The DNC server was hacked, as was Podesta's personal email and I think it was the DNC's house reelection server. Not Clinton's.



That would not have been discovered had third party not stepped in. The move of having the server is what cost her the credibility, not necessarily what was on it.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

davideinstein

Quote from: erfalf on November 15, 2016, 02:53:02 PM
Edit: You all know he can be a really crappy president without being Hitler right?

So you all know, Hitler was an incredibly effective politician. I have NO faith that Trump possesses the capabilities to accomplish a fraction of the evil (if he chose to) that he could even dream of.

The reason so many presidents compare well to Hitler is because becoming the president usually means you are a power hungry ruthless person. Coincidence, I think not.

Obviously Trump is pretty good politician as well. He sold the country on not being a politician even. If you don't see the correlation between a Muslim database and a yellow star on a Jew in 1930's Germany than I don't know what to tell you.

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

Never forget.

erfalf

Quote from: davideinstein on November 21, 2016, 04:01:46 PM
Obviously Trump is pretty good politician as well. He sold the country on not being a politician even. If you don't see the correlation between a Muslim database and a yellow star on a Jew in 1930's Germany than I don't know what to tell you.

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

Never forget.

Will you be the first to let me know when Trump is doing something Trumpy or Hitlery to actual American citizens.

You know, like politicizing the IRS or something. You know, something crazy like that no one would ever do.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

davideinstein

Quote from: erfalf on November 21, 2016, 04:03:12 PM
Will you be the first to let me know when Trump is doing something Trumpy or Hitlery to actual American citizens.

You know, like politicizing the IRS or something. You know, something crazy like that no one would ever do.

Database for Muslims qualifies. Don't expect me to drop this fact either.

Conan71

Quote from: davideinstein on November 21, 2016, 04:13:45 PM
Database for Muslims qualifies. Don't expect me to drop this fact either.

Database of immigrants from Muslim nations.  Same as the databases of immigrants from England, Mexico, or the Cayman Islands.

You are doing nothing but trying to spread unfounded fear.

Facts matter.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Red Arrow

Quote from: Conan71 on November 21, 2016, 08:51:24 PM
Database of immigrants from Muslim nations.  Same as the databases of immigrants from England, Mexico, or the Cayman Islands.

You are doing nothing but trying to spread unfounded fear.

Facts matter.

Words matter.
 

erfalf

Quote from: Red Arrow on November 21, 2016, 09:02:14 PM
Words matter.

Sessions is probably thinking the same thing, even though virtually his whole career has flown in the face of those "alleged" words.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

swake

Quote from: erfalf on November 22, 2016, 06:54:12 AM
Sessions is probably thinking the same thing, even though virtually his whole career has flown in the face of those "alleged" words.

Oh please, seriously?

Sessions is the guy that not only wants to deport all illegals but stop most legal immigration as well.