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Started by Hoss, July 19, 2016, 10:31:08 AM

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Ed W

Quote from: Breadburner on November 13, 2016, 09:20:12 AM
Looks like the Dems are the real smile show they have gotten their asses kicked across the board Trump was the final nail being hammered in....... ;D ;D ;D

Not really. Clinton beat Trump in the popular vote, and although that didn't equate to victory in the Electoral College, it shows that Democratic turnout is still very good. Trump's supporters, many of them disaffected blue collar workers, are about to find out that those rust belt jobs he promised are never coming back. They've been betrayed and used. As usual, evangelicals chose political power in pursuit of their social agenda rather than adherence to their much-vaunted morals, and already we're seeing a rift developing. The only ones who will gain substantially are Wall Street types. Trump did not betray his class.

But that's not meant to imply the Democrats are blameless. They too used blue collar workers as pawns in previous elections, paying little more than lip service to union rights and workers genuine needs. They can return as Democratic voters IF the party can show concrete, demonstrable changes that support workers.
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

Hoss

Quote from: Ed W on November 13, 2016, 09:56:56 AM
Not really. Clinton beat Trump in the popular vote, and although that didn't equate to victory in the Electoral College, it shows that Democratic turnout is still very good. Trump's supporters, many of them disaffected blue collar workers, are about to find out that those rust belt jobs he promised are never coming back. They've been betrayed and used. As usual, evangelicals chose political power in pursuit of their social agenda rather than adherence to their much-vaunted morals, and already we're seeing a rift developing. The only ones who will gain substantially are Wall Street types. Trump did not betray his class.

But that's not meant to imply the Democrats are blameless. They too used blue collar workers as pawns in previous elections, paying little more than lip service to union rights and workers genuine needs. They can return as Democratic voters IF the party can show concrete, demonstrable changes that support workers.

Look who you're responding to Ed.  Likely in one ear/out the other.

And the Dem turnout wasn't good at all.  Not like it should have been.  It always takes an election like this for a post-mortem to be done.  Hopefully the Dems will listen to it moreso than the Republicans did last time...you know, "stop being the party of stupid" and all that?  Stop alienating minorities?  While they came out ahead this election, from all accounts they didn't do alot to help with that.

My hope, is that Trump's claim of 'being the least racist person I know' is true and his rhetoric during the campaign was just that.  I have my doubts, but am willing to give him the benefit of it (unlike Republican supporters who for the last eight years have done everything they could to delegitimize the legally elected President).

And for those who say Trump has a mandate?  He may have the two houses of Congress (although not the Senate if you consider right now it's not a filibuster-proof entity) but winning the EC and losing the PV doesn't give him a mandate.  I hope those Republicans who distanced themselves from him are just as critical of what he wants as they should be.

Time for Dems to stop being pussies.  I have a feeling that may finally happen (although I'm skeptical).  If there's one thing the Republicans are good at, it's inciting interest within the base.  The DNC needs an overhaul.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Breadburner on November 13, 2016, 09:20:12 AM
Looks like the Dems are the real smile show they have gotten their asses kicked across the board Trump was the final nail being hammered in....... ;D ;D ;D


Wasn't exactly a mandate - Trump is about a million less in popular vote than Clinton.  Probably gonna be a lot bigger difference before it's over - just not in "swing states".
"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

swake

Quote from: Breadburner on November 13, 2016, 09:20:12 AM
Looks like the Dems are the real smile show they have gotten their asses kicked across the board Trump was the final nail being hammered in....... ;D ;D ;D

Your reputation on this site is well earned

davideinstein

Quote from: Breadburner on November 13, 2016, 09:20:12 AM
Looks like the Dems are the real smile show they have gotten their asses kicked across the board Trump was the final nail being hammered in....... ;D ;D ;D

Hillary is going to win by almost 2M in the popular vote. Enjoy demographic change after the 2020 census...

erfalf

Quote from: davideinstein on November 14, 2016, 11:33:37 PM
Hillary is going to win by almost 2M in the popular vote. Enjoy demographic change after the 2020 census...

Wait, I thought Trump was going to "take care of that".

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"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

patric

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum


patric

Quote from: BKDotCom on December 13, 2018, 09:54:05 AM
shockedn't


Anti-abortion Republicans force Health and Human Services to shut down HIV research

The move follows the unsettling establishment earlier this year of a new department within HHS, the Conscience and Religious Freedom Division, that was created to handle complaints from healthcare providers who did not wish to treat transgender people or perform abortions.
"This effectively stops all of our research to discover a cure for HIV"


https://www.salon.com/2018/12/14/health-and-human-services-department-shuts-down-hiv-research_partner/

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

guido911

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Townsend

Quote from: guido911 on December 14, 2018, 12:09:20 PM


Turning on the news and seeing the crazy that is the executive branch is not reassuring. 

guido911

Quote from: Townsend on December 14, 2018, 12:21:57 PM
Turning on the news and seeing the crazy that is the executive branch is not reassuring. 

I wish Trump would just shut up sometimes.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: guido911 on December 14, 2018, 03:30:39 PM
I wish Trump would just shut up sometimes.


The real question is that when it gets there, will Trump be tried as an adult...?
"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.