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Started by davideinstein, September 18, 2016, 11:20:27 PM

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patric

Tulsa County DA debate turns to questions over last summer's Betty Shelby trial

Wood also asked about positions Kunzweiler brought up during Shelby's trial, such as when Shelby was criticized for taking 72 hours to give a statement to investigators. TPD policy, Wood said, is for officers to receive that 72-hour period to cool off before making a statement, yet during trial Kunzweiler and ADA Kevin Gray told the jury that was improper.

https://www.readfrontier.org/stories/tulsa-county-da-debate-turns-to-questions-over-last-summers-betty-shelby-trial/

Could it be both policy and improper?  
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

patric

#271
Protests as police woman who shot man teaches class on shootings
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45335805


Betty Shelby teaching course for officers on 'surviving the aftermath of a critical incident'
Officers will get CLEET credit for class about aftermath of a shooting

https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/bettyshelby/betty-shelby-teaching-course-for-officers-on-surviving-the-aftermath/article_9388a019-cd03-5890-9757-069a5bf9706d.html



Juror: 'We all agreed Betty Shelby should never be a patrol officer again'
Shelby "was a fearful person," and that the jury agreed someone with that mindset should not be on patrol.

https://www.readfrontier.org/stories/juror-agreed-betty-shelby-never-patrol/


https://tulsaworld.com/news/trending/accidental-shootings-by-police-expose-training-shortfalls/article_59eae421-85cd-5e6a-a87a-5159d0c3676a.html
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: patric on May 03, 2018, 11:48:20 AM
Tulsa County DA debate turns to questions over last summer's Betty Shelby trial

Wood also asked about positions Kunzweiler brought up during Shelby's trial, such as when Shelby was criticized for taking 72 hours to give a statement to investigators. TPD policy, Wood said, is for officers to receive that 72-hour period to cool off before making a statement, yet during trial Kunzweiler and ADA Kevin Gray told the jury that was improper.

https://www.readfrontier.org/stories/tulsa-county-da-debate-turns-to-questions-over-last-summers-betty-shelby-trial/

Could it be both policy and improper?  



Tim Harris residuals....what do you expect...?    (Collective 'you', not specific 'you'...)


"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

patric

#273
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on August 27, 2018, 12:40:05 PM
Tim Harris residuals....what do you expect...?    (Collective 'you', not specific 'you'...)



Tulsa in the news, again.



https://abcnews.go.com/US/protest-erupts-critical-incident-class-taught-oklahoma-officer/story?id=57448147
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/experts-disagree-dallas-officer-credible-57845912


This white police officer will teach you how to 'survive' after shooting an unarmed black man

http://theweek.com/speedreads/792925/white-police-officer-teach-how-survive-after-shooting-unarmed-black-man


Betty Shelby Is Teaching a Class on Surviving Killing an Unarmed Black Man. Here Are 10 Things She'd Be Better At
https://verysmartbrothas.theroot.com/betty-shelby-is-teaching-a-class-on-surviving-killing-a-1828659721


Shelby has instructed the class for other agencies. Goodwin said the course "has already been taught, word has it, at the Tulsa Police Department."
https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/the-situation-is-very-ugly-protest-targets-betty-shelby-s/article_ef592b5c-4fb9-5ee1-9f4a-543cb21ac559.html


Unnamed conflict for city legal staff may force Tulsa to pay outside counsel for Betty Shelby, others
https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/bettyshelby/crutcher-lawsuit-unnamed-conflict-for-city-legal-staff-may-force/article_bbc7f584-2d8b-5405-a10a-9767d40d2a55.html
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: patric on August 30, 2018, 11:47:44 PM



Tulsa in the news, again.



https://abcnews.go.com/US/protest-erupts-critical-incident-class-taught-oklahoma-officer/story?id=57448147


This white police officer will teach you how to 'survive' after shooting an unarmed black man

http://theweek.com/speedreads/792925/white-police-officer-teach-how-survive-after-shooting-unarmed-black-man


Betty Shelby Is Teaching a Class on Surviving Killing an Unarmed Black Man. Here Are 10 Things She'd Be Better At
https://verysmartbrothas.theroot.com/betty-shelby-is-teaching-a-class-on-surviving-killing-a-1828659721


Shelby has instructed the class for other agencies. Goodwin said the course "has already been taught, word has it, at the Tulsa Police Department."
https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/the-situation-is-very-ugly-protest-targets-betty-shelby-s/article_ef592b5c-4fb9-5ee1-9f4a-543cb21ac559.html





And there is wonder at the fact that Oklahoma doesn't thrive the way the rhetoric/propaganda says we should....

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

patric

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on August 31, 2018, 10:13:59 AM
And there is wonder at the fact that Oklahoma doesn't thrive the way the rhetoric/propaganda says we should....


Community leaders challenge Tulsa Police Department's hiring of Betty Shelby despite questionable background
"They knew the risk, and they knew about Betty Shelby's past, and they did nothing."


https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/bettyshelby/community-leaders-challenge-tulsa-police-department-s-hiring-of-betty/article_a0c291a6-ca53-559c-8a38-aa40cc55e0c1.html
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

swake

Quote from: patric on December 12, 2018, 11:44:07 PM

Community leaders challenge Tulsa Police Department's hiring of Betty Shelby despite questionable background
"They knew the risk, and they knew about Betty Shelby's past, and they did nothing."


https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/bettyshelby/community-leaders-challenge-tulsa-police-department-s-hiring-of-betty/article_a0c291a6-ca53-559c-8a38-aa40cc55e0c1.html


What the frack is that. How on earth was she ever a cop? How did that not come out in her trial?

patric

Quote from: swake on December 13, 2018, 11:12:30 AM

What the frack is that. How on earth was she ever a cop? How did that not come out in her trial?


Maybe for the same reason there was no critical examination of the reason the department gave for her dashcam not recording (despite non-corroborating evidence from the previously-released helicopter video).
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: swake on December 13, 2018, 11:12:30 AM
What the frack is that. How on earth was she ever a cop? How did that not come out in her trial?


And Rogers County just can't get enough of her!!   When Tulsa finally got those little scraps of conscience and got rid of her, leave it to Claremorons to scoop her up and put another gun in her hand!! 

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

patric

#279
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on December 14, 2018, 08:27:00 PM

And Rogers County just can't get enough of her!!   When Tulsa finally got those little scraps of conscience and got rid of her, leave it to Claremorons to scoop her up and put another gun in her hand!!  


DOJ: "Mistake, misperception, negligence or poor judgment are not sufficient to establish a federal criminal civil rights violation"
https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/betty-shelby-will-not-face-prosecution-on-alleged-civil-rights/article_5596bcdf-0836-5dd3-8241-44415feb7ea4.html
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/01/us/oklahoma-tulsa-shooting-federal-decision/index.html

Police officers avoid charges in two different shootings of unarmed black men
The cases out of Sacramento and Tulsa join a litany of racial injustices.

https://thinkprogress.org/police-shootings-unarmed-black-men-no-charges-533bc63e2b0e/

Critics accused the police of overreacting after days of protests against the ruling that there won't be charges for the two officers who killed Clark in his grandmother's backyard after mistaking an iPhone in his hands for a gun.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/03/05/sacramento-police-arrest-reporter-protesters-march-against-stephon-clark-shooting/
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

patric

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: patric on April 24, 2019, 10:40:33 PM
A favorite law firm among cops is sponsoring a firearms class.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/former-tulsa-police-officer-betty-shelby-to-teach-basic-nra/article_0380c8b4-fdd3-5a59-80f9-b4bd2ec9ce40.html



Well, at least she will be in 'good company' with the rest of the NRA gangsters and Mafioso running that organization today!

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

patric

Quote
Betty Shelby teaching course for officers on 'surviving the aftermath of a critical incident'
Officers will get CLEET credit for class about aftermath of a shooting

https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/bettyshelby/betty-shelby-teaching-course-for-officers-on-surviving-the-aftermath/article_9388a019-cd03-5890-9757-069a5bf9706d.html


Its jaw-dropping to see what counts as the "mental health training" required by CLEET

https://www.readfrontier.org/stories/honor-system-agency-tasked-with-continuing-education-of-oklahoma-officers-takes-training-on-good-faith/

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

patric

#283
In 3 years since Terence Crutcher's death, Tulsa Police added one policy. More could reduce killings by officers, a researcher says.
She believes Shelby made a horrible mistake in shooting Crutcher...(pulling) the trigger as another officer simultaneously deployed a Taser.


https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/in-years-since-terence-crutcher-s-death-tulsa-police-added/article_93d2b213-3948-5b38-bcf9-503963dd58d5.html


One officer fired a round from a less-lethal weapon. Five more officers fired their handguns. Attorneys for Rodriguez's surviving family members called it a "sympathy shoot," a phenomenon where one officer fires a weapon and others nearby fire in response.
 
https://www.readfrontier.org/stories/video-has-become-the-strongest-witness-for-the-prosecution-in-police-shootings/



Terence Crutcher was meant to go to a music appreciation class at community college. When it was cancelled, he made his way to Friday night choir practice, where his father was waiting. After that, he was supposed to go to a birthday party for Tykiaha's younger sister Tyjunae. He never made it.
"Kaka," he said, "some white lady killed my daddy."
Why, he asked.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/24/police-killings-families-ramarley-graham-terence-crutcher-tamir-rice

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

Conan71

Quote from: patric on September 15, 2019, 10:48:23 PM
In 3 years since Terence Crutcher's death, Tulsa Police added one policy. More could reduce killings by officers, a researcher says.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/in-years-since-terence-crutcher-s-death-tulsa-police-added/article_93d2b213-3948-5b38-bcf9-503963dd58d5.html


Terence Crutcher was meant to go to a music appreciation class at community college. When it was cancelled, he made his way to Friday night choir practice, where his father was waiting. After that, he was supposed to go to a birthday party for Tykiaha's younger sister Tyjunae. He never made it.
"Kaka," he said, "some white lady killed my daddy."
Why, he asked.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/24/police-killings-families-ramarley-graham-terence-crutcher-tamir-rice



Aaaaaand, at some point that evening, Crutcher stopped long enough to snort some PCP and put himself and others at danger with his hallucinations.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan