President Trump- The Implications

[heironymouspasparagus]

I joked about voting for Sanders because I wanted free stuff but don't think I really could have voted for Sanders.

Yeah, he was way too much into working for the other 99%...never would have worked out...

[heironymouspasparagus]

Donald J. Trump ✔@realDonaldTrump
No matter how much I accomplish during the ridiculous standard of the first 100 days, & it has been a lot (including S.C.), media will kill!
5:50 AM - 21 Apr 2017
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Another Contract On America. 

Think Newt....

[AquaMan]

Yeah, he was way too much into working for the other 99%...never would have worked out...

He did seem like a populist which is hot right now. I liked much about his message but frankly he hasn't produced much in Congress where he has little or no constituency (just like trump) and has a lot of baggage that women didn't care for in his past (also like trump). Add to that the fact he would carry the Socialist moniker and you had the prescription for a disastrous presidential campaign and even if he won another 4 years of stalemate and personal attack from conservatives. Net: failed presidency.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Here is the reality of Trump's "job creation" fantasy.  Least American made product from Boeing in the history of the company.

6,000 jobs or 8% of Washington workforce eliminated last year.  Another 6,000 scheduled for this year.  PLUS 1,500 'voluntary redundancies' to get axed.

And discussion of these type results, plus the self-admitted Trump facts of pedophilia, sexual predator, calling POW's cowards, insulting everyone, and lying about everything is considered butt-hurt in some quarters.  Not to mention calling up Putin to tell him we were gonna bomb Syrian airfield so they could move equipment/personnel out of harms way...as reported by Trump's Pentagon spokesperson.  I really do wonder about the moral/ethical compass of the butt-hurt battalion...still supporting the Pedophile in Chief after all that is known about him..!!


http://www.theage.com.au/business/aviation/in-the-worlds-biggest-building-boeing-workers-wait-for-trumps-promised-jobs-20170321-gv2rqk.html

[guido911]

Here is the reality of Trump's "job creation" fantasy.  Least American made product from Boeing in the history of the company.

6,000 jobs or 8% of Washington workforce eliminated last year.  Another 6,000 scheduled for this year.  PLUS 1,500 'voluntary redundancies' to get axed.

And discussion of these type results, plus the self-admitted Trump facts of pedophilia, sexual predator, calling POW's cowards, insulting everyone, and lying about everything is considered butt-hurt in some quarters.  Not to mention calling up Putin to tell him we were gonna bomb Syrian airfield so they could move equipment/personnel out of harms way...as reported by Trump's Pentagon spokesperson.  I really do wonder about the moral/ethical compass of the butt-hurt battalion...still supporting the Pedophile in Chief after all that is known about him..!!


http://www.theage.com.au/business/aviation/in-the-worlds-biggest-building-boeing-workers-wait-for-trumps-promised-jobs-20170321-gv2rqk.html

Dirty Steve in the spirit world has apparently hacked hieron's TNF account...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT4UmxqoFt4

[heironymouspasparagus]

Dirty Steve in the spirit world has apparently hacked hieron's TNF account...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT4UmxqoFt4

Just hate it when reality comes to visit, don'cha?

No spirits - just reminiscing about Trump's past utterances and actions.  Wish it was a spirit world phenomenon - then we could all wake up and this s$$$ would be over....

But in the meantime - how big is that chicken??


I am curious - exactly what about that airplane visit was feeding into the Fake Fox News world of "making America great again" ??  Other than Trump's total disconnect from what is actually going on in "the biggest building in the world"....

[patric]

Ivanka Trump Is Jeered in Berlin After Defending Her Father
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/25/world/europe/ivanka-trump-is-jeered-in-berlin-after-defending-her-father.html


The Germans probably understand we were duped by a florid populist; they have a unique perspective on that.
Im sincerely gratified to know they are still allies with America.

[erfalf]

Ivanka Trump Is Jeered in Berlin After Defending Her Father
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/25/world/europe/ivanka-trump-is-jeered-in-berlin-after-defending-her-father.html


The Germans probably understand we were duped by a florid populist; they have a unique perspective on that.
Im sincerely gratified to know they are still allies with America.

I think there is a huge mis-read of what happened in the election. People were not "duped" as much as I think people were just weary of the status quo, or professional politician. So much so that the elected a complete imbecile, BUT he wasn't a career politician. Now, that being said, you will probably be able to find some people out there that truly believe Trump is a great whatever, same as I could probably find those that think the Clinton's are as innocent as a lamb. But I would wager that by and large people were not voting for Trump as much as they were voting against Hillary.

[heironymouspasparagus]

I think there is a huge mis-read of what happened in the election. People were not "duped" as much as I think people were just weary of the status quo, or professional politician. So much so that the elected a complete imbecile, BUT he wasn't a career politician. Now, that being said, you will probably be able to find some people out there that truly believe Trump is a great whatever, same as I could probably find those that think the Clinton's are as innocent as a lamb. But I would wager that by and large people were not voting for Trump as much as they were voting against Hillary.

Duped.   Elected a swamp dweller to bring in all his swamp friends to drain the swamp.  People wanted some things - he lied about giving them to them - and they still won't get what they want.  Coal will never come back to eclipse natural gas.  Steel has never really gone away, just morphed into a different type of product with about the same level of business activity as for generations - just fewer people due to better processes.  Boeing will continue to make a smaller percentage of their planes here.  Big 3 car manufacturing will continue to go to Mexico because of incompetent management while Toyota, Honda, Nissan, et al will continue to have more plants here because they actually know how to do manufacturing for a global economy!  And the real cause of loss of jobs - NOT illegal immigrants - automation...will never go away so more hands on labor will be needed.  As in the steel industry...  Fantasy worlds of wishful thinking.  And a liar to make them think it can happen.  It is the Luddites all over again.  See what is missed with no knowledge or understanding of history by a large group of people?

Saw one of those polls that came out this week that said something like 94% or 96% of the people who voted for Trump would still vote for him.  That shows where the hard core 19% of people eligible to vote have their heads.  

I bet another election would see a much different turn out - the people in Michigan and the swing states that gave Trump the electoral college, who voted for the 'other' candidates, are probably wishing they had not for the most part.  


As for "Killary" - well, if you ever wanna go beyond the sound bite world, check into the comments and books by Kenneth Starr and David Brock.  The guys who were employed and paid to make up and spread most of the lies you have grown up with about the Clinton's....  They may not be "innocent" but they certainly are not guilty - especially when you do a side by side comparison of the people going after them the most.  Goes to perspective...as always!

[erfalf]

Duped.   Elected a swamp dweller to bring in all his swamp friends to drain the swamp.  People wanted some things - he lied about giving them to them - and they still won't get what they want.  Coal will never come back to eclipse natural gas.  Steel has never really gone away, just morphed into a different type of product with about the same level of business activity as for generations - just fewer people due to better processes.  Boeing will continue to make a smaller percentage of their planes here.  Big 3 car manufacturing will continue to go to Mexico because of incompetent management while Toyota, Honda, Nissan, et al will continue to have more plants here because they actually know how to do manufacturing for a global economy!  And the real cause of loss of jobs - NOT illegal immigrants - automation...will never go away so more hands on labor will be needed.  As in the steel industry...  Fantasy worlds of wishful thinking.  And a liar to make them think it can happen.  It is the Luddites all over again.  See what is missed with no knowledge or understanding of history by a large group of people?

Saw one of those polls that came out this week that said something like 94% or 96% of the people who voted for Trump would still vote for him.  That shows where the hard core 19% of people eligible to vote have their heads.  

I bet another election would see a much different turn out - the people in Michigan and the swing states that gave Trump the electoral college, who voted for the 'other' candidates, are probably wishing they had not for the most part.  


As for "Killary" - well, if you ever wanna go beyond the sound bite world, check into the comments and books by Kenneth Starr and David Brock.  The guys who were employed and paid to make up and spread most of the lies you have grown up with about the Clinton's....  They may not be "innocent" but they certainly are not guilty - especially when you do a side by side comparison of the people going after them the most.  Goes to perspective...as always!

My perspective is that pretty much anyone who has attained the presidency has probably taken part in nefarious activity, political party is a non-issue.

And Hillary did things intended to hide things. It doesn't take a rocket science to see that. But I'm sure she was just trying to hide her yoga schedule.

[AquaMan]

In that they believed he would/could do what he promised, they were duped. Change is one thing. We all get tired of the same and think new and different is going to be better, more exciting and easier. They were duped because he had no idea what the job entailed and they couldn't figure that out. they are still duped as they swallow the idea that "he's flexible in his extreme positions" rather than he flip flopped because he found out he couldn't do what he said he could with the inept choices he made to run the government. First the coal miners figured it out, then the farmers, then manufacturing. That is why his approval ratings are hovering around 40% or less depending on the source.

You anti-Hillary types always gloss over the fact that she won the popular vote by some 3 million. A huge amount historically. Unless you choose to follow sources that make up their own stuff to suit his needs.

[heironymouspasparagus]

My perspective is that pretty much anyone who has attained the presidency has probably taken part in nefarious activity, political party is a non-issue.

And Hillary did things intended to hide things. It doesn't take a rocket science to see that. But I'm sure she was just trying to hide her yoga schedule.

And Trump is trying to hide his motel videos in Moscow...   Wonder what his tax returns are hiding?  All that business activity and the huge billion dollar interconnections he has to Putin in Russia....?

[erfalf]

And Trump is trying to hide his motel videos in Moscow...   Wonder what his tax returns are hiding?  All that business activity and the huge billion dollar interconnections he has to Putin in Russia....?

What does that have to do with anything I just said. It is reflexive?

[heironymouspasparagus]

What does that have to do with anything I just said. It is reflexive?

Your quote was, "And Hillary did things intended to hide things. It doesn't take a rocket science to see that. But I'm sure she was just trying to hide her yoga schedule."

Just to a lessor degree than Trump.

Elaboration, explanation, and enhancement.

[heironymouspasparagus]

For those most seriously distressed by the Trump Presidency, there are alternative options (not to be confused with alternative facts...!)


http://www.ic.org/