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Started by Conan71, November 09, 2016, 10:24:31 AM

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heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: TeeDub on December 20, 2017, 02:38:48 PM

It looks like my taxes will probably go down too!    I am in the top 50% of wage earners for sure.   

$1.5T is just chump change...   He needs to really get to work to catch up to his predecessors.
https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296
 
Also, I don't have money for champagne, but I will drink some fireball!


They will go down for a little while - maybe.  Then back up, higher than before.  If you are under about $250,000 a year, you will be glued, screwed and tattoed!  Unless of course you are one of the top 1%, where your cuts are permanent.


As for budgets, deficits, and other deflective BS like the site you referenced - there is only 1 place that counts for adding numbers to what the government owes.  Everything else is just noise.  As I have linked to probably dozens of times here by now... the Federal Debt History page is the only one that means anything - link included one more time for the intellectually lazy who won't lift a finger to look for anything that isn't Fake Fox News.

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt_histo5.htm

For those that can add 1 + 1, it can be seen that Bush's last year additions to the debt were $1.9 trillion dollars.  And had been climbing dramatically every year.  Obama's first year cut that by about 20%.  Decent reduction while fighting the worst depression since the 1930's.  And giving real people - the other 99% - middle class taxpayers the largest tax cuts in the history of our country.   Unlike Trump who just lies about it....

And each successive year after that first big reduction, the added debt decreased every year through Obama's terms.  While also being the longest economic expansion in the history of our country - continuing without break through today!   Watch though - for the recession coming to an American economy near you!

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

heironymouspasparagus

Trump Minions got to be so proud...again!!   Scott Pruitt has been at it all year on a lower profile project designed to continue the Trump Screwing of America.  One quick little side note - more than 700 real scientists and technical people have left the EPA this year in a serious exodus.  Which means Trump with get his wish of eliminating the EPA if this continues .   One of the biggest pogroms since Reagan declared war on the environment appointing Ann Gorsuch.  Who was run out of office for her $1.6 billion mismanagement of superfund clean up sites.

Ann was also the mother of the guy Trump appointed to the Supreme Court this year....the family tradition continues... public disservice on the public dole!

But I digress...the real point of this is that Scott Pruitt appointed one of his "good buddies" from here in good ole Okrahoma to be the Superfund Administrator - Albert Kelly.  Everyone remembers him from his decades as head of gross mismanagement of Spirit Bank here in the state (where of course we have a shot at the Amazon headquarters!!)   The guy that loaned Pruitt tons of money to buy a baseball team.  Then loaned bigger tons of money to the people who bought it at huge markup from Scott Pruitt some years later.   Spirit Bank customers paying the bill, of course...   (This only ended about 3 years ago - two years before Scott and buddies opened for business at EPA.)

Same guy who was BANNED FOR LIFE from ever participating in banking in any manner in the United States.  Ever.

Scott got him a cushy $175,000 job in the EPA and no doubt wished he could do more. 

Republicontins gotta be SO proud...!! 



"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: guido911 on December 21, 2017, 08:03:20 PM
Emoluments Clause case dismissed, CR passed, drilling in Anwr, Obamacare mandate gone, big tax cuts...pretty terrific week. Hopefully start turning off the tap to the UN next week.


To clarify and put some accuracy into your statement - big tax cuts for YOU.  Weak sauce pittances for the other 99%.  And tax increases for tens of millions in just a very short few years.  3 additional senior FBI officials verifying Comey's statements.  And no Republicontin action on illegal activities still.

But at least it wasn't Hillary...!

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

guido911

Cancel the 2020 election. People are learning there was a tax cut on alcohol. But of course the downside...

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/31/alcohol-tax-cut-health-advocates-317404
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

patric

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on December 23, 2017, 07:45:57 PM
Trump Minions got to be so proud...again!!   Scott Pruitt has been at it all year on a lower profile project designed to continue the Trump Screwing of America.  One quick little side note - more than 700 real scientists and technical people have left the EPA this year in a serious exodus.  Which means Trump with get his wish of eliminating the EPA if this continues .   One of the biggest pogroms since Reagan declared war on the environment appointing Ann Gorsuch.  Who was run out of office for her $1.6 billion mismanagement of superfund clean up sites.

Ann was also the mother of the guy Trump appointed to the Supreme Court this year....the family tradition continues... public disservice on the public dole!

But I digress...the real point of this is that Scott Pruitt appointed one of his "good buddies" from here in good ole Okrahoma to be the Superfund Administrator - Albert Kelly.  Everyone remembers him from his decades as head of gross mismanagement of Spirit Bank here in the state (where of course we have a shot at the Amazon headquarters!!)   The guy that loaned Pruitt tons of money to buy a baseball team.  Then loaned bigger tons of money to the people who bought it at huge markup from Scott Pruitt some years later.   Spirit Bank customers paying the bill, of course...   (This only ended about 3 years ago - two years before Scott and buddies opened for business at EPA.)

Same guy who was BANNED FOR LIFE from ever participating in banking in any manner in the United States.  Ever.

Scott got him a cushy $175,000 job in the EPA and no doubt wished he could do more. 

The sociopath who almost got the Homeland Security gig is among the latest to cry "fake news" when his public records hit the presses, so now he's advocating some good old Trump-style violence.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/david-clarke-to-make-media-tasteblood_us_5a485540e4b025f99e1c09a8
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

guido911

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

heironymouspasparagus

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

guido911

Mar-a-lago menu for New Years..



I had ham leftovers on pumpernickel.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: guido911 on December 31, 2017, 11:03:23 PM
Mar-a-lago menu for New Years..



I had ham leftovers on pumpernickel.



I think you came out ahead on that deal....didn't cost you stupid money!!   Very hard to beat ham on pumpernickel !!  And no sarcasm at all - very serious.



"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

swake

Good thing Trump was able to squeeze in his 76th! golf outing. Including every day since December 23rd!

76!

And Obama was vilified for 27 golf outings to this point in his presidency. Often by Trump himself.

cannon_fodder

I defended Obama golfing, I defended Bush going to his Texas ranch.  I do not want President who never clears his head and doesn't know how to relax.

But when you spend most of a decade making fun of the last President for taking too much vacation and spending too much of the taxpayers money on it, you kind of set the bar for yourself:

Obama:  8% of days spent on vacation, average of $31k per day in office on vacation. $0 to companies the President owned. 

Trump:  28% of his days on vacation, average of $288k per day in office spent on vacation.  Million to companies the President owns.

But those are just facts...
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I crush grooves.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: cannon_fodder on January 03, 2018, 09:01:48 AM
I defended Obama golfing, I defended Bush going to his Texas ranch.  I do not want President who never clears his head and doesn't know how to relax.

But when you spend most of a decade making fun of the last President for taking too much vacation and spending too much of the taxpayers money on it, you kind of set the bar for yourself:

Obama:  8% of days spent on vacation, average of $31k per day in office on vacation. $0 to companies the President owned. 

Trump:  28% of his days on vacation, average of $288k per day in office spent on vacation.  Million to companies the President owns.

But those are just facts...


Again, I am going to blatantly plagiarize, paraphrase, and use your wisdom...
"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Ed W

We may be better off by encouraging Trump to spend more time on the golf course, away from his phone and Twitter, and away from that big nuclear button on his desk.
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

TeeDub

Quote from: cannon_fodder on January 03, 2018, 09:01:48 AM
Trump:  28% of his days on vacation, average of $288k per day in office spent on vacation.  Million to companies the President owns.

Not sure I am defending Trump, just bringing in some reality.

If I owned a golf resort, I might choose to spend time there rather than in DC.   DC sucks.   Also, he seems to have a bunch of foreign dignitaries meeting him at Mar-A-Lago.  With the ability to shield himself and visitors from the press, it allows for some interesting possibilities.   The Chinese, Columbian, and Japanese leaders have all had official meetings with Trump there, no telling how many others he has had.   Just saying.

heironymouspasparagus

In addition to tweeting like a fool...well, like what he is...

He deletes a tweet.   Breaking the law once again.  (Federal Records law)


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-backs-apos-fight-apos-154139736.html

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.