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Started by Conan71, November 09, 2016, 10:24:31 AM

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heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: dbacksfan 2.0 on June 12, 2018, 07:00:14 PM
And you are the abject contrairian just like Juan Williams, and sound like the same broken record that he is.


Oh, ouch... how  that stings...Lol..!!

Actually, I am in reactionary mode - when he makes stupid, insulting comments, I point them out for the childish 7th grade dropout garbage that his stunted development has brought us.  He is he one repeatedly warned by Moderators to quit making profane insults and potty mouth trash on this site.  But if you think he is just fine, well, good for you...you do remember 7th grade, don't you?   


Much like my responses to similar garbage from Trump, by the way!

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Breadburner on June 12, 2018, 07:24:35 PM
Oh the Irony...LoL...!!!


How cool is that!!??   Learned a new, 3 syllable word?   Who helped you?   How many months did it take??
"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

swake

Quote from: dbacksfan 2.0 on June 12, 2018, 07:00:14 PM
And you are the abject contrairian just like Juan Williams, and sound like the same broken record that he is.

Ohh, a FoxNews fan. Please tell us all about Fox and their thinking on how to handle Kim.

http://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-video-trump-obama-north-korea-848618

heironymouspasparagus

Exactly what would be expected of Hannity and the entire Fake Fox News Fakery.

If it weren't for double standards, Trump and the Republicontins would have no standards at all.


https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1006701349910675457

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Hoss

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on June 13, 2018, 10:29:03 AM
Exactly what would be expected of Hannity and the entire Fake Fox News Fakery.

If it weren't for double standards, Trump and the Republicontins would have no standards at all.


https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1006701349910675457



I was telling this same exact narrative to my coworkers the other day.  If Obama had sat down with Kim the entire conservative movement and most Republicans would have called for his head on a pike.  They excoriated him for even suggesting he'd talk to NK during one of his Presidential debates (I can't see the video, so maybe it makes this point).

And then of course one of the President's staffers suggesting Jim Acosta of CNN have his press credentials revoked.  Authoritarians do this, not leaders of a Democratic Republic.   ::)

erfalf

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Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on June 13, 2018, 10:29:03 AM
Exactly what would be expected of Hannity and the entire Fake Fox News Fakery.

If it weren't for double standards, Trump and the Republicontins would have no standards at all.


https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1006701349910675457



To be fair all I see on here is criticism of Trump for meeting with Kim, and deflecting and protecting of the Iran deal, so there ain't really a leg to stand on here. You all are no better than this charlatan you mock. And when I say all, I just mean a few well known posters.

And to be more fair (not to Hannity but to conservatives who were irritated with the Iran deal), most were irritated at the result of the deal, not the attempt.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

erfalf

Quote from: Hoss on June 13, 2018, 10:50:26 AM
I was telling this same exact narrative to my coworkers the other day.  If Obama had sat down with Kim the entire conservative movement and most Republicans would have called for his head on a pike.  They excoriated him for even suggesting he'd talk to NK during one of his Presidential debates (I can't see the video, so maybe it makes this point).

And then of course one of the President's staffers suggesting Jim Acosta of CNN have his press credentials revoked.  Authoritarians do this, not leaders of a Democratic Republic.   ::)

Jim Acosta is a distraction from real reporting. Once he realizes he is not the story he will do much better. And lay off the authoritarian business. Perhaps the most authoritarian president we ever had is considered the best (or second best) out of all of them. That word, like racist, is losing its meaning.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

heironymouspasparagus

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Quote from: erfalf on June 13, 2018, 11:09:06 AM
To be fair all I see on here is criticism of Trump for meeting with Kim, and deflecting and protecting of the Iran deal, so there ain't really a leg to stand on here. You all are no better than this charlatan you mock.


I'm not knocking Trump for meeting with Kim.  In fact, a day or two back, I said I think it is a good idea to talk.  I also said we should make some concessions to get the ball rolling - they can always go back on if it don't work out.  Just like Obama did with Iran.  And Cuba.  And tried with NK as did others.

Edit; the reason they were upset about Iran was that it was working.  Can't have a black man do something right!  Makes the KKK and the skin heads look bad when their lies are exposed!

What I knock is the blatant hypocrisy - you can see it right there on the Hannity video if you care enough about reality to look - of the RWRE for their lies, distortions, disparagement, and flat out disgusting behavior in situations like this.


As for what Trump has given away with no reciprocity, well, we will see how that works out.  War games can start back up at any time.  Although, it would be stupid to withdraw our troops any time soon, but that is the kind of thing one can expect from Trump.  Either stupid, illogical, illegal, immoral, or all of the above.  Usually at the same time.


Interesting little side note - Cohen's lawyers quit.  Gee, I wonder why??   Maybe they want to keep what reputation they have left when they saw the true loosing magnitude of what they were trying to defend??

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/former-trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-likely-cooperate-attorneys-142803074--abc-news-topstories.html



"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Townsend

After meeting with North Korean dictator, Trump calls press America's 'biggest enemy'

http://money.cnn.com/2018/06/13/media/trump-tweet-media/index.html

Back to this again

swake

Quote from: erfalf on June 13, 2018, 11:09:06 AM
To be fair all I see on here is criticism of Trump for meeting with Kim, and deflecting and protecting of the Iran deal, so there ain't really a leg to stand on here. You all are no better than this charlatan you mock. And when I say all, I just mean a few well known posters.

And to be more fair (not to Hannity but to conservatives who were irritated with the Iran deal), most were irritated at the result of the deal, not the attempt.

Did Obama meet with Iran's leader?  And Iran actually did give up their nuclear program. What exactly has Kim done? What exactly has he promised?

This photo op with Kim is all just vaporware, there's no real agreement there and all the concessions have been on our side. We have suspended war games, we met with Kim one on one as equals. Sure Kim claims he shut down his test site, but in reality we have no verification of that at all and from what we can tell that site actually collapsed after his last test and was already useless.

heironymouspasparagus

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Quote from: swake on June 13, 2018, 12:01:37 PM

Sure Kim claims he shut down his test site, but in reality we have no verification of that at all and from what we can tell that site actually collapsed after his last test and was already useless.



Our people have said that is as close to certainty as can be had next to walking into a tunnel and looking.  Hoping it's true.

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

patric

Quote from: erfalf on June 13, 2018, 11:09:06 AM
To be fair all I see on here is criticism of Trump for meeting with Kim, and deflecting and protecting of the Iran deal, so there ain't really a leg to stand on here. You all are no better than this charlatan you mock. And when I say all, I just mean a few well known posters.
And to be more fair (not to Hannity but to conservatives who were irritated with the Iran deal), most were irritated at the result of the deal, not the attempt.

Trump hasnt committed to destroying ACA or net neutrality or Iran nuke deal because they are bad but because they are Obama, and he stated so as a campaign promise.  He is obsessed with dismantling his predecessor, perhaps because some people can only make themselves look good by making everyone else look bad.
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

erfalf

Quote from: swake on June 13, 2018, 12:01:37 PM
Did Obama meet with Iran's leader?  And Iran actually did give up their nuclear program. What exactly has Kim done? What exactly has he promised?

This photo op with Kim is all just vaporware, there's no real agreement there and all the concessions have been on our side. We have suspended war games, we met with Kim one on one as equals. Sure Kim claims he shut down his test site, but in reality we have no verification of that at all and from what we can tell that site actually collapsed after his last test and was already useless.

heir, this is actually who I was talking about.  ;)
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

erfalf

Quote from: patric on June 13, 2018, 01:31:12 PM
Trump hasnt committed to destroying ACA or net neutrality or Iran nuke deal because they are bad but because they are Obama, and he stated so as a campaign promise.  He is obsessed with dismantling his predecessor, perhaps because some people can only make themselves look good by making everyone else look bad.

ACA was on it's last leg before Trump was even elected. And the situation in Iran is arguably no different (sans billions of dollars no longer flowing to Iran) than with the deal. Those are poor examples. While the reasoning in public may have been flawed, when did you start believing anything Trump says. Or do you only believe him when it makes him look bad, kinda like the guy you just made fun of.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

erfalf

oh sorry, I skipped Net Neutrality. Prove to me that communications are a necessity like other utilities then maybe you have something. While he may be against it because Obama was for it is a poor way to try to support bad policy.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper