KTUL losing talent?

[brunoflipper]

isn't "local news talent" an oxymoron?
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[Phireman]

quote:Originally posted by T-Town Now

If KTUL really wanted to improve its market share, perhaps they should start by dumping Carole "Guess what color my hair's going to be this year" Lambert and Charles "I come across as smug and arrogant and I don't care" Ely. I can't stand watching them.

And who would have thought that Eddie Munster (aka Frank Mitchell) would grow up to be a Meteorologist in Tulsa, OK?

The people at FOX come across as more professional, in my opinion, although I think Channel 2 provides the best overall news coverage in the area.

Thanks for the laugh.  Now I can't help from thinking of Eddie Munster when I see Frank.

[Phireman]

quote:Originally posted by KTULWebteam

quote:Originally posted by DM

I would agree with that. KTUL and KOTV are the only websites that update during the day. In this day in age with more people checking news stories online during the day, I am surprised they not all updating daily. One thing I dont like about KOTV is that they dont have a business section on the homepage. But the thing I do like is the eclips. But I think KTUL has that too. KTUL has a better community calender.

Channel 2 had the best website in the market when TV news websites were still a new thing. But, now that stations are seeing the importance of them, it's strange how theirs has dropped off bigtime. Ours has been named the Best Website in Oklahoma for three of the past four years, but KOTV has never been far behind. They keep me on my toes.

Thanks for chipping in, Kevin.  I still miss the KTUL forums.  To bas so few had to spoil the fun for so many.

[BKDotCom]

quote:Originally posted by KTULWebteam
If you'd have e-mailed me, I'd have explained those technical difficulties. TV-47 was supposed to give us a clean copy of the debate, meaning no logos, no graphics, etc. We didn't get that. We got one with logos on it.

Perhaps you can answer this quasi-related question:
Why when covering a "live" event is the  "live logo" recorded??  This annoys the begezus out of me.  Would it be so hard to add the live indicator after the VCR so to speak?

When the footage is reaired - "live" is up in the corner and usually nothing to indicate it's a lie.  This is always bad during "breaking news" when affiliates/networks start passing video around and regurgitating video because the don't really have any news... or on simple things like KTULs Channel 53 rebroadcasts...

I'm suprised the FCC doesn't have regulations or something about this

[KTULWebteam]

quote:Originally posted by BKDotCom

Perhaps you can answer this quasi-related question:
Why when covering a "live" event is the  "live logo" recorded??  This annoys the begezus out of me.  Would it be so hard to add the live indicator after the VCR so to speak?

When the footage is reaired - "live" is up in the corner and usually nothing to indicate it's a lie.  This is always bad during "breaking news" when affiliates/networks start passing video around and regurgitating video because the don't really have any news... or on simple things like KTULs Channel 53 rebroadcasts...

I'm suprised the FCC doesn't have regulations or something about this

Actually no. Those graphics are not done in post production, they are done live during the broadcast and in the control room. The 'clean feed' of the broadcast would include all graphics except the '8' logo in the bottom right corner of the screen.

Also FYI, Channel 53 is KOTV, not KTUL.

[D.Schuttler]

quote:Originally posted by KTULWebteam

quote:Originally posted by pmcalk

I like KOTV's website--especially the e-clips.  KTUL is a lot more limited with that--maybe they could increase it?  For those of us who don't watch tv too frequently, it is nice to catch it on the computer.

I've actually started doing some more of these. I try to put every package we do on the internet. Unfortunately, we can't stream the entire 30 minute programs or I'd do that.

Any chance to put up a video of Frank on July the 7th during his backyard thing. This was down the street from my house and I had the biggest laugh when he was talking and a jet came over and he had to stop , while on air.... It was priceless

[Steve]

quote:Originally posted by Cubs

quote:You have got to be kidding! I have always considered Channel 8 news to be a mouthpiece for the Tulsa Chamber of Commerce. In my opinion, they offer the most conservative, "Republican," viewpoint of any local broadcast station.

KTUL IS LIBERAL.  I watch a lot of news and hear the same stories on all the stations and KTUL always has to put a liberal spin on it.  Sometimes it is just a word or two, but they almost always put some type of liberal twist on the story.  
I am not the only one who feels this way.  Ask Michael DelGiorno, he too would tell you KTUL is the most liberal.  
I sent an email to KTUL once telling them I was sick of their liberal spins, and one of the workers there, who admitted he wasn't happy with KTULs approach, replided something along the lines of, "KTUL reports the news as we see it and when I say we, I mean the writers."  Now I don't know, maybe he was just having a bad day, but I doubt it.

I know you don't always see it, but KTUL is liberal.  Sometimes I zone out and don't really catch it either, but if you listen closely, you will hear the liberal spins.

That is your opinion, and I respectfully disagree.  One thing I do not do is rely on only one source for my knowledge of current events.  I watch local TV news, and the network TV national news, I read newspapers, I read news reports on the internet.  As an adult with a mind of my own, I think I can separate the facts from the opinions, or at least make an intelligent effort to do so.
One thing I never do is listen to talk radio.  A total waste of the public airwaves, in my opinion.

[patric]

quote:Originally posted by KTULWebteam
I've actually started doing some more of these. I try to put every package we do on the internet. Unfortunately, we can't stream the entire 30 minute programs or I'd do that.

KOTV was streaming entire newscasts live over the internet in 2000.  I had people in Italy, Australia, Germany and both US coasts Email me after an interview I did for a 2-part sweeps piece on streetlight reform in Tulsa (OK, they did get a heads-up from an international advocacy group, which pumped the viewership up a bit).

At the time, you could browse to broadcast.com/television/kotv/ and watch Tulsa news live from wherever you had the internet, or catch up later with a smaller, archived version (the link doesnt work now, or at least since broadcast.com was assimilated by Yahoo).

The piece has since won a few broadcasting awards, and now resides at
http://www.darkskysociety.org/handouts/blinded_by_the_light158k.wmv

[KTULWebteam]

quote:Originally posted by patric
[brKOTV was streaming entire newscasts live over the internet in 2000.  I had people in Italy, Australia, Germany and both US coasts Email me after an interview I did for a 2-part sweeps piece on streetlight reform in Tulsa (OK, they did get a heads-up from an international advocacy group, which pumped the viewership up a bit).

At the time, you could browse to broadcast.com/television/kotv/ and watch Tulsa news live from wherever you had the internet, or catch up later with a smaller, archived version (the link doesnt work now, or at least since broadcast.com was assimilated by Yahoo).

The piece has since won a few broadcasting awards, and now resides at
http://www.darkskysociety.org/handouts/blinded_by_the_light158k.wmv

We used to do it, too, but a new rule was enacted or passed or something that disallows commercials to be streamed online. I'm guessing I could take the direct feed from our control room, but there would be about 2-3 minutes of dead space where the commercials would be.

[D.Schuttler]

quote:Originally posted by KTULWebteam

quote:Originally posted by patric
[brKOTV was streaming entire newscasts live over the internet in 2000.  I had people in Italy, Australia, Germany and both US coasts Email me after an interview I did for a 2-part sweeps piece on streetlight reform in Tulsa (OK, they did get a heads-up from an international advocacy group, which pumped the viewership up a bit).

At the time, you could browse to broadcast.com/television/kotv/ and watch Tulsa news live from wherever you had the internet, or catch up later with a smaller, archived version (the link doesnt work now, or at least since broadcast.com was assimilated by Yahoo).

The piece has since won a few broadcasting awards, and now resides at
http://www.darkskysociety.org/handouts/blinded_by_the_light158k.wmv

We used to do it, too, but a new rule was enacted or passed or something that disallows commercials to be streamed online. I'm guessing I could take the direct feed from our control room, but there would be about 2-3 minutes of dead space where the commercials would be.

Fox23 has a new idea.  3pm webcast news  . They have really beefed up the amount of videos also.

[KTULWebteam]

quote:Originally posted by D.Schuttler

Fox23 has a new idea.  3pm webcast news  . They have really beefed up the amount of videos also.

We tried that for a short time as well, but it was very difficult for me to get a person to do it since they were already busy or out in the field.

[D.Schuttler]

quote:Originally posted by KTULWebteam

quote:Originally posted by D.Schuttler

Fox23 has a new idea.  3pm webcast news  . They have really beefed up the amount of videos also.

We tried that for a short time as well, but it was very difficult for me to get a person to do it since they were already busy or out in the field.

They probably have a better advantage of being able to get more people into multi-tasking, considering their setup.

[KTULWebteam]

quote:Originally posted by D.Schuttler

They probably have a better advantage of being able to get more people into multi-tasking, considering their setup.

Well, the way things are set up here, our evening anchors don't get here until 2 and at that time, we have our afternoon news meeting. So, it wouldn't be until 3 or 3:30 before they could even get around to it. And, our other anchors are usually out in the field as are our reporters. It gets pretty dead in the newsroom between 10AM and 3PM.

[patric]

quote:Originally posted by KTULWebteam
We used to do it, too, but a new rule was enacted or passed or something that disallows commercials to be streamed online. I'm guessing I could take the direct feed from our control room, but there would be about 2-3 minutes of dead space where the commercials would be.

I know Dish and DirecTv arent allowed to provide, say, Dallas local stations to non-Dallas markets like Tulsa (the local advertisers dont want someone else's car commercials polluting their revenue streams) but similar regulation of internet content seems to be beyond the authority of any one government.

I think if the feds were to tackle such regulation, public pressure would dictate they start with spam (yeah, the CANSPAM act was gutted by the deep advertising pockets who essentially changed the meaning of the word "can").  

Meanwhile, you can listen to many Tulsa radio stations live and in their entirety over the web, so im not clear on a double-standard for TV.

http://www.kmod.com/listenlive.html
http://www.rsu.edu/krsc/fm/krscfm.html

[Porkysfoe]

quote:Originally posted by Porky

If someone wants to know how hot it is outside, they just need to take their lazy butt outside in the yard. This also works in the same method when checking to see if it's raining outside.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
GOOD ONE, PORK!