State officials refuse to turn over voter roll data to Trump election panel

[Hoss]

Explain to me why they think they would need this?  At the writing below, there were three states that refused to do this, but I've seen an update and it's up to about 10 (Oklahoma, surprisingly, is included in that list of ten).

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/340192-state-officials-refuse-to-turn-over-voter-roll-data-to-trump

[Conan71]

Wait, this guy has been sitting in the White House for over five months now and he wants an investigation into voter fraud because he didn't win the popular vote?

The reason he didn't win the popular vote is because he's a dick.

Pure and simple.

[Hoss]

Wait, this guy has been sitting in the White House for over five months now and he wants an investigation into voter fraud because he didn't win the popular vote?

The reason he didn't win the popular vote is because he's a dick.

Pure and simple.

But he and many of his supporters seem to think that there were 3 million illegal votes cast.  When the evidence doesn't show it.

[guido911]

This is hilarious. It's completely reasonable that we spend zillions of dollars and spill gallons of ink looking into how Russia stole the election for Trump. An argument Obama laughed at ladt October.  But by God we better not see who actually voted in our election. That's crazy talk.

[Conan71]

But he and many of his supporters seem to think that there were 3 million illegal votes cast.  When the evidence doesn't show it.

Next, he's going to be demanding an inquiry into missing strawberries from the White House kitchen.

[swake]

This is hilarious. It's completely reasonable that we spend zillions of dollars and spill gallons of ink looking into how Russia stole the election for Trump. An argument Obama laughed at ladt October.  But by God we better not see who actually voted in our election. That's crazy talk.

No, what's hilarious is you believe Trump.

Now THAT is really sad.

[guido911]

No, what's hilarious is you believe Trump.

Now THAT is really sad.

Well you tell us. What has Trump said about this request for voting records. I mean, I know the whole "Trump-conspired-with-Russia to throw the election his way" which Trump denied turned out to be true.

This is all so confusing. Trump won because of fraud and interference, but only the fraud and interference that idiots like you want to believe. Actually looking at who voted in our election, and seeing where that might lead--we can't have that. In that respect Trump is right. What are they afraid of?

[Tulsa Zephyr]

Next, he's going to be demanding an inquiry into missing strawberries from the White House kitchen.

Captain Queeg - perfect!

[TheArtist]

Well you tell us. What has Trump said about this request for voting records. I mean, I know the whole "Trump-conspired-with-Russia to throw the election his way" which Trump denied turned out to be true.

This is all so confusing. Trump won because of fraud and interference, but only the fraud and interference that idiots like you want to believe. Actually looking at who voted in our election, and seeing where that might lead--we can't have that. In that respect Trump is right. What are they afraid of?

I for one have no problem with them looking to see if there was voter fraud and trying to determine how much there may have been and offering up potential solutions.  Actually I would push for it. BUT, what they are doing and asking for with this request seems inappropriate.  They can do what they are tasked to do without getting all the particular data points they are requesting (some which seem rather suspect and none of their business concerning what they are tasked with doing) and can definitely do a better job of working WITH the states to answer the question.

[Ed W]

In some states, the commission is asking for information that states are legally bound from revealing. Yet Trump blasts all of them for being uncooperative. That's dumb. Nothing will get state officials to dig in their heels more than over-reaching demands from Washington.

Regardless, no investigation of voter fraud has ever turned up evidence of such wide spread fraud. Numbers are handfuls rather than the millions Trump alleges. So his comission will either fudge the numbers to fit his narrative, or as is more widely believed, provide a pretext for denying more Americans their voting rights.

Finally, as for Russian interference in our elections, nothing has been proven yet. That is most definitely not the same as denying it happened.

[Hoss]

I for one have no problem with them looking to see if there was voter fraud and trying to determine how much there may have been and offering up potential solutions.  Actually I would push for it. BUT, what they are doing and asking for with this request seems inappropriate.  They can do what they are tasked to do without getting all the particular data points they are requesting (some which seem rather suspect and none of their business concerning what they are tasked with doing) and can definitely do a better job of working WITH the states to answer the question.

Exactly.  Why is address needed?  Smells like voter intimidation to me.  Oklahoma technically has complied, but only by releasing what is only publicly available (no SSN, name, county of registration I think and party affiliation).  They don't need my address.  Nor my social security number.  They're asking for too much under the guise of 'voter fraud investigating'.

I find it funny that the party of small government is pushing for government intervention on something that is typically a state function (voting).  Can't have your cake and eat it too.

[Hoss]

And even funnier is this.   LOL.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/30/kris-kobach-says-hes-cant-comply-with-kris-kobachs-voter-data-request/

[Hoss]

I for one have no problem with them looking to see if there was voter fraud and trying to determine how much there may have been and offering up potential solutions.  Actually I would push for it. BUT, what they are doing and asking for with this request seems inappropriate.  They can do what they are tasked to do without getting all the particular data points they are requesting (some which seem rather suspect and none of their business concerning what they are tasked with doing) and can definitely do a better job of working WITH the states to answer the question.

And another thing...the whole voter fraud thing...is a solution looking for a problem.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/18/us/voter-fraud.html

[guido911]

Get whatever information can be accessed and start there. Let's see where this goes. Whatever is revealed will answer whether or not there is fraud.

And as for voter suppression, I got no problem with suppressing the illegal or dead vote.

[BKDotCom]

Let's see where this goes.

They'll find a few scattered cases of voter fraud.  That'll be the excuse they need to enact voter suppression type measures.