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The American? ANYONE?!

Started by Johnboy976, January 15, 2006, 10:35:12 PM

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sgrizzle

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The waist-level observation deck could be brought to you byt Fruit of the loom, He could wear a rolex like most other hollywood indians that look like him. Also, just like the hollywood indians, make him out of white concrete and paint him bronze to save money.

Rico

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Originally posted by robbyfoxxxx

I guess that since "TheAmerican" is a for profit venture, It would be stupid to donate money for it, that would be like giving money to walmart. The statue will never get off the ground, investor are not sure of the "profits"



I will say this.. I believe it was Carlton Place that brought the SEC filing thing to light...

When I first realized that it was true I expected Eliot Spitzer to come to Tulsa...
If I owned one share of this I would be looking for a buyer.......any buyer.......

But maybe I am wrong... after the Pigeons have done their part in decorating... and the patina begins to set in maybe they will take that "Godess of Oil" thing Artist carries around and make a Tulsa version of "King Kong Meets Fay Raye"

[;)]

robbyfoxxxx

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Originally posted by robbyfoxxxx

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Originally posted by robbyfoxxxx


Johnboy976
QuoteUhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I actually talk to them on a regular basis... and the news covered them not more than two months ago.  


Johnboy976
QuoteOkay.... so does anyone have any information about "The American?" It has been way too difficult to get in touch with their spokesman. He said (over two months ago) that a foundation for the statue should start rolling in the mid to late part of the summer.


So whats up now? The PR people are unwilling to talk to the public? I guess it is useless to garner public support for a project that has failed before it has started.I sent an email to the coordinators stating I was an investor and I got a reply the next day! The swiftness in response to my "investor" email and the PR emails being unresponded shows that the statue definitely needs money if it will be built,(I hope that it is not built)I think think the largest statue in the world needs to have a better design, and I am sure that is one main reason the statue is not being invested in.

jdb

Keys a little sticky there, Robby?

I still favor plucking the Golden Driller and plopping him on the top of that hill up North.

robbyfoxxxx

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Okay.... so does anyone have any information about "The American?" It has been way too difficult to get in touch with their spokesman. He said (over two months ago) that a foundation for the statue should start rolling in the mid to late part of the summer.


Its mid-late summer now, looks like it is postponed again, does'nt bother me.

Rico

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Originally posted by robbyfoxxxx

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Okay.... so does anyone have any information about "The American?" It has been way too difficult to get in touch with their spokesman. He said (over two months ago) that a foundation for the statue should start rolling in the mid to late part of the summer.


Its mid-late summer now, looks like it is postponed again, does'nt bother me.



Forget about it.......!

Lets get back to this "Fountains all over Tulsa" deal...

Mister Gray will complete his project when it is completely passay....



Johnboy976

Well, I'm convinced... they've abandoned the idea. Could the city consider asking the companies and individuals who raised money for the statue to allocate their money over to projects that will actually be completed (e.g. the BOK Center)?

Sangria

Seems to me there was an issue with getting enough funding and a few potential backers backed out on them.

Then there wasn't anything said for a long time.

People will come to see it - that's a given. People like to see that kind of thing.

But then the hurricanes hit and nothing but that made the news for months sooooo....

Maybe they changed their mids and they are going to dump it in the middle of the river instead - make an island out of it....[}:)]

robbyfoxxxx

Great Success!!!
I am happy to know that I helped stop the building of the statue,I am very proud,
Robert

Rico

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Originally posted by Johnboy976

Well, I'm convinced... they've abandoned the idea. Could the city consider asking the companies and individuals who raised money for the statue to allocate their money over to projects that will actually be completed (e.g. the BOK Center)?



No one raised any money... This was/is? a for profit venture... Shares of "Stock" were sold at a price of $500K each......

Only 3 were ever sold in the Tulsa area.... At least that was the number that made the news.. Ms. Mayo and another Lady, I can't recall her name,  split the three shares....

Good Luck to the purchasers..... I would call Elliot Spitzer if I had any trouble getting my money back...

LaFortuna drooled like a Saint Bernard.. When he got this fellow to take Tulsa over OKC... Maybe the big bopper can fix the situation for Mister Gray....
[}:)]

robbyfoxxxx

Wow, this is great news! By the time they raise 45 million dollars, the statue will cost 100 million dollars to build, High five!
I bet that most investors got their money back, so Im guessing that they are closer to 0 dollars than the 20 million dollars that they said they raised. Great success!

Ibanez

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Originally posted by robbyfoxxxx

Wow, this is great news! By the time they raise 45 million dollars, the statue will cost 100 million dollars to build, High five!
I bet that most investors got their money back, so Im guessing that they are closer to 0 dollars than the 20 million dollars that they said they raised. Great success!




What is your problem with the statue?

RecycleMichael

I really hated the location.

It is seven miles outside of downtown on a beautiful natural hill.

That peak is the highest point in five counties and building a statue 21 stories high just seemed out of place.

I also thought the statue was a litle weird. The figure was looking down at an angle instead of looking at the majestic eagle landing on his arm.
Power is nothing till you use it.

TheArtist

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Originally posted by wavoka

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Originally posted by robbyfoxxxx

Wow, this is great news! By the time they raise 45 million dollars, the statue will cost 100 million dollars to build, High five!
I bet that most investors got their money back, so Im guessing that they are closer to 0 dollars than the 20 million dollars that they said they raised. Great success!




What is your problem with the statue?




Very amateurish design.  The anatomy and stance were all wrong. When a person is in a certain position, some muscles are relaxed others tensed, move one part of the body and every other part moves however slightly in accordance. Those types of things are readily noticed by any artist worth his salt, even someone who hasn't studied like me.   What was with the leg being up like that?  Does anyone stand that way?  And why looking down with a ho hum blank expression while a giant eagle was landing on your arm? And the limp hand held up like that as if a butterfly were about to alight on his finger, why not a fist like any falconer or eagle hunter would have? It was just so wrong in so many ways. If you have ever studied art or sculpture or even just have the slightest eye for such things.  It also would have made us the laughing stock of the world art community, contemporary or classical. Figures its in Oklahoma.
"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

PonderInc

I've always wondered if there's something about people who have to have the "biggest" thing around.  Like all those huge statues and paintings of short little dictators.  Or little men in their humongous, jacked-up pickup trucks.  Or that creepy, gigantic cross out there off of I-40 out by Amarillo...

What are we compensating for?

I agree with the Artist on the "American."  The only thing worse than bad art is big, bad art.