Everything Isn't So Rosy with Mr. Henry

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by Cubs

Job Cuts
http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0906/363059.html

Cubs, I'm not a Gov. Henry apologist, but the 285 jobs to be cut are a result of changes at the FEDERAL LEVEL, not Henry's policies.

Also, read to the end of the article- Boeing to add 300 jobs- net gain of 15, not a loss.

Nice try.

[Cubs]

Crime is out of control!!
Just one day of headlines:
Two Dead, A Third Critical, Following A Cherokee County Shooting
http://kotv.com/news/?111574
Two Killed In Early Morning Oklahoma City Shooting
http://kotv.com/news/?111593
Three Arrested After Running Truck Into Mailboxes
http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0906/363746.html
Three Stabbed At State Fair In Oklahoma City
http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0906/363635.html

[Cubs]

quote: Also, read to the end of the article- Boeing to add 300 jobs- net gain of 15, not a loss.

That is still 285 jobs lost! I don't care what Boeing is going to do. Your economy isn't going to grow much if you are going to lose jobs every time you gain some. The governor did absolutely nothing to try to keep those jobs.

[AVERAGE JOE]

quote:Originally posted by Cubs

Crime is out of control!!
Just one day of headlines:
Two Dead, A Third Critical, Following A Cherokee County Shooting
http://kotv.com/news/?111574
Two Killed In Early Morning Oklahoma City Shooting
http://kotv.com/news/?111593
Three Arrested After Running Truck Into Mailboxes
http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0906/363746.html
Three Stabbed At State Fair In Oklahoma City
http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0906/363635.html

For the second time in this thread, what does the governor have to do with crime? NOTHING. It's a local police issue. If the state has any role at all, it would be through state appropriations, which is the legislature's job.

I think we're seeing a case of Cubs' not letting facts get in the way of a good rant.

[AVERAGE JOE]

quote:Originally posted by Cubs

quote: Also, read to the end of the article- Boeing to add 300 jobs- net gain of 15, not a loss.

That is still 285 jobs lost! I don't care what Boeing is going to do. Your economy isn't going to grow much if you are going to lose jobs every time you gain some. The governor did absolutely nothing to try to keep those jobs.

You know for a fact he did nothing? How are you privy to this? Did you sit in on the meetings? Are you sure his Commerce secretary didn't make an attempt? Should we have funneled taxpayer money to a private corporation worth billions of dollars to save those 285 jobs? And regardless of what you say, we ended up with a net GAIN of 15 jobs.

See, the way that works, Cubs, is at the end of the game, if your teams has scored more than the other team, you win. I know you haven't had much practice at this "winning" thing, rooting for the Cubs and all, but trust me, that's how it works...

[Cubs]

quote: See, the way that works, Cubs, is at the end of the game, if your teams has scored more than the other team, you win. I know you haven't had much practice at this "winning" thing, rooting for the Cubs and all, but trust me, that's how it works...

This isn't a football game. At a football game, all you have to do is have a least one more point than the other team and you win. In an economy if you only gain one job, your economy is not growing. The population of the state is going to increase regardless of the number of jobs. So if you only gain 15 jobs, you are really losing jobs because the population has increased.

[Cubs]

Trust me, if a Republican was governor, you would agree with me.

[Cubs]

Sorry, I don't like posting 3 times in a row, but I just gotta ask.... How does a city (Tulsa) vote for George Bush, Tom Coburn (100% rating on the conservative report card- #1 in the nation), Jim Inhofe (84% rating on the conservative report card- #3 in the nation) and John Sullivan and then vote for Brad Henry and Kathy Taylor?? It just doesn't make sense. Somewhere the people are being mislead, and I think its pretty clear, and the people are well aware the first group are strong conservatives.

[Cubs]

quote: For the second time in this thread, what does the governor have to do with crime? NOTHING. It's a local police issue. If the state has any role at all, it would be through state appropriations, which is the legislature's job.

Henry seems to think he can do something about crime.
http://www.henryforgovernor.com/acomp4.htm
Safer streets, safer families

To protect families and make Oklahoma a safer place to live, Gov. Henry has pushed an innovative public safety agenda that has earned national accolades and produced positive results.

In 2004, the governor approved a law that would soon become a national model in the war in methamphetamine. By restricting over-the-counter sales of a key meth ingredient, pseudoephdrine, Gov. Henry helped shut down clandestine meth labs across the state. Because of its high success rate, dozens of other states and the federal government copied Oklahoma's law, which was also won praise from the US drug czar.

Gov. Henry is taking an innovative approach toward Internet predators as well. Recognizing that the worldwide web has become a popular tool of sex offenders and pedophiles, the governor established SafeNet, a special unit in the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation that combats online predators. Safenet is designed to ensnare sexual predators who are trolling the Internet for Oklahoma children.

The governor is also working to protect the state's youngest citizens from abuse and neglect. Gov. Henry signed new anti-child abuse legislation in 2006 and helped fund additional abuse investigators to go after offenders.  

I give the governor props on the meth thing, but that is all. He claims he is making streets safer, but he is not. So, if you say the governor can do nothing about crime, then Henry is lying.

[rwarn17588]

It's easy to figure out why locals voted for Kathy Taylor, Cubs.

It's because her GOP predecessor stunk up the joint. Voters tend to jump party lines if an office-holder is incompetent enough, which is good and proper. It shouldn't be enough to earn someone's vote just because he/she is a certain political affiliation.

Frankly, Cubs, I don't know how bad LaFortune had to be before you wouldn't vote for him. Then again, some folks would vote for a Republican even if there were pictures of him screwing goats.

Oh, and Cubs, Steve Largent beat Brad Henry by nearly 19,000 votes in Tulsa County in 2002. It's not like voters flocked to vote for Henry, as you insinuate.

Here's the breakdown:

Largent 84,187   
Henry 65,383
Richardson 25,158

Next time, do your homework.

As for Henry's likely win in this coming November, it's because he's been competent as an officeholder. It's amazing what basic competence will do for someone in the polls.

[RecycleMichael]

quote:Originally posted by Cubs

Sorry, I don't like posting 3 times in a row, but I just gotta ask.... How does a city (Tulsa) vote for George Bush, Tom Coburn (100% rating on the conservative report card- #1 in the nation), Jim Inhofe (84% rating on the conservative report card- #3 in the nation) and John Sullivan ...

I think that we believe that the federal government is crooked and we want the best crooks possible representing us.

Just kidding, cubs.

[papaspot]

quote:Originally posted by Cubs

Crime is out of control!!
Just one day of headlines:
Two Dead, A Third Critical, Following A Cherokee County Shooting
http://kotv.com/news/?111574
Two Killed In Early Morning Oklahoma City Shooting
http://kotv.com/news/?111593
Three Arrested After Running Truck Into Mailboxes
http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0906/363746.html
Three Stabbed At State Fair In Oklahoma City
http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0906/363635.html

LOL! Is this a new neo-con debate tactic? If your hand gets called on your misinformation just change the subject? [}:)]

Psssst...Cubs...crime is up NATIONWIDE. So what's your point?

[papaspot]

quote:Originally posted by Cubs

quote: Also, read to the end of the article- Boeing to add 300 jobs- net gain of 15, not a loss.

That is still 285 jobs lost! I don't care what Boeing is going to do. Your economy isn't going to grow much if you are going to lose jobs every time you gain some. The governor did absolutely nothing to try to keep those jobs.

You must not have gone to the public schools that y'all right wingers detest so. A net gain is a net gain, no matter how you try to spin it.

[papaspot]

quote:Originally posted by Cubs

Sorry, I don't like posting 3 times in a row, but I just gotta ask.... How does a city (Tulsa) vote for George Bush, Tom Coburn (100% rating on the conservative report card- #1 in the nation), Jim Inhofe (84% rating on the conservative report card- #3 in the nation) and John Sullivan and then vote for Brad Henry and Kathy Taylor?? It just doesn't make sense. Somewhere the people are being mislead, and I think its pretty clear, and the people are well aware the first group are strong conservatives.

Maybe the people finally woke up and smelled the toast burning.

[rwarn17588]

Facts are pesky things, Cubs.