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Council talks Illegal Immigration Enforcement

Started by Double A, September 14, 2006, 12:00:37 AM

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papaspot

Conan, I think we pretty much agree on the basics and we'll never agree on the details.

Double A, comparing the effect of suddenly removing twelve to fifteen million workers from the work force--to raising the minimum wage is pure apples and oranges. Raising the minimum wage has never been shown to hurt the economy and, as you pointed out seems to help it. Common sense tells you that removing twelve to fifteen million workers (okay, let's reduce that to four million to account for non-working children) is gonna have a pretty marked effect on the economy. Expecting four million Americans or legal immigrants to suddenly come forward and do the work for minimum wage (which is almost three times the former labor cost) is pretty unrealistic. The fact that you're NOT gonna get that many people to do the work is gonna further compound the problem because the supply is gonna shrink to a fraction of what it currently is.

Reba

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=217091#217091

You guys should check this out what they are doing to encourage Tulsa to pass an immigration law.

Conan71

Great to see it, but it won't be enforced.  As mentioned on the general discussion thread already this a.m. all they have to do is show up with good forged INS and SSI cards.  Get rid of the forgers, take away the hand-outs, and you will get rid of a lot of the illegals.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Double A

http://www.kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=112058

Oologah's Council Passes Ordinance Aimed At Illegal Immigrants
KOTV - 10/3/2006 6:11 AM - Updated 10/3/2006 7:42 AM
A Rogers County town is taking a stand against illegal immigration.

The Oologah town council has passed an ordinance making it illegal for employers to hire illegal immigrants inside the Oologah city limits.

The ordinance was introduced by the mayor. Jerry Holland says Oologah will enforce the law he says the feds have failed to enforce. Oologah mayor Jerry Holland: "They're spineless. They've done nothing about it. It all has to do with our entire immigration policy and something needs to be done."

Contractors we spoke with say it would really help small businesses if cities like Tulsa cracked-down on employers who hire illegal immigrants.

Oologah's ordinance takes effect in 30 days.

Inola, also in Rogers County, is also considering an immigration mandate.
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Conan71

That's easy to do when there are very few people to piss off with such an ordinance.

Oologah and Inola seem to be as much a white-bread community as you can have.  Of the businesses I've patronized in Oologah since I've had my boat at Red Bud Marina, I don't recall even seeing a foreigner as a customer at any business in the town.

I used to date a gal that lived in Inola, and I don't recall many, if any foreigners there either.

The only enterprises I can picture that might hire immigrant workers in either town would be farmers/ranchers or construction companies based out of Inola or Oologah.  This would put any construction company based in either town at a competitive disadvantage in bidding on contracts in other areas where a blind eye is turned to employing illegal immigrants.

Hopefully, the day is coming that larger cities and the state are going to do something about it.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

rwarn17588

So, in other words, seeing an illegal immigrant being hired in Oologah city limits is about as likely as seeing a polar bear.

What a brave ordinance.

Conan71

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Originally posted by rwarn17588

So, in other words, seeing an illegal immigrant being hired in Oologah city limits is about as likely as seeing a polar bear.

What a brave ordinance.



Yep, that's pretty much the case.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan