9/11 Thread NO FUNNY BUSINESS

[iplaw]

If you take a look at my links Socrates you will see that they are studies done by credentialed scientists working in their respective fields, something 9/11 loons cannot boast.  Give me one study performed by a Structural Engineer that backs up any of your claims and I will gladly read it.  Here's a hint...you won't find one...

Do yourself a favor and check out the "scholars" for 9/11 truth and see how many Structural Engineers, Demo Experts and Seismologists are listed...

Conspiracy theory websites do not "impartial" evidence make and if you can't understand that I feel sorry for you.

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Mr. Silverstein did say that he ordered to "pull" WTC building 7. It was on PBS.

Yeah, and that claim has been soundly debunked in other threads, that's why Alt doesn't bring it up anymore.  

Here is the paper written by the Demo company that supervised the final demo of ground zero.

Implosion World

[papaspot]

quote:Originally posted by Brownsfan68

***CREDENTIALED SOURCES ONLY***


give me some of your examples of "credentialed" sources.


independent sources are to me sources that are not influneced by corporate eliteist, lobbyist or politicians.

Now with this rense dude,  I dont agree with everything he says but Mr. Silverstein did say that he ordered to "pull"  WTC building 7.  It was on PBS.

So you consider conspiracy sites to be "independent sources"? And yet you accuse iplaw and me of being dupes of the mainstream media?

[}:)][}:)][}:)]

It all makes sense now. A source is an "independent source" if it says what you want to hear, right?

[tgr]

See if you can put the money where your mouth hole is...

[iplaw]

Yeah...bla bla bla...we've seen it before.  

If you have any proof of your CT please post it.  We have no interest in CT crackpot websites run by people who are not credentialed scientists who don't know a Torr from a Newton or the difference between elastic or inelastic collisions like your leader ALT.

Neither of the kooks that run that website (Jones, Reynolds) have any formal training in Demoloition, Structural Engineering or Failure Analysis.

Argue for yourself and don't plagiarize from these sites like other CT kooks on this forum.

[papaspot]

reopen911.org? [}:)]

Is there a single conspiracy nut here that can come up with a SINGLE SOURCE that isn't a 9/11 conspiracy site? I mean...you'd THINK that with all this ABUNDANCE of conspiracy "evidence" out there, you wouldn't have any problem coming up with a single, original source that presents SCIENTIFIC evidence WITHOUT an obvious agenda. The fact that no one can come up with a single ONE should tell you something. But then, you don't want to be told ANYTHING that disputes what you're determined to believe.

[papaspot]

Alt, if these are the people you recruited to come here and help you try to shore up your sagging (and by sagging I mean crushed) arguments, then... I mean, seriously, Alt...is this the best that your camp has to offer? If they're sacrificial lambs brought to try to bring pity to your camp it's one thing, but if you really brought a couple of amateurs to go up against a mechanical engineer, doncha think that's kind of cruel? Did you warn them that you brought them here to be lunch meat?

[altruismsuffers]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

If you take a look at my links Socrates you will see that they are studies done by credentialed scientists working in their respective fields, something 9/11 loons cannot boast.  Give me one study performed by a Structural Engineer that backs up any of your claims and I will gladly read it.  Here's a hint...you won't find one...

Do yourself a favor and check out the "scholars" for 9/11 truth and see how many Structural Engineers, Demo Experts and Seismologists are listed...

Conspiracy theory websites do not "impartial" evidence make and if you can't understand that I feel sorry for you.

quote:
Mr. Silverstein did say that he ordered to "pull" WTC building 7. It was on PBS.

Yeah, and that claim has been soundly debunked in other threads, that's why Alt doesn't bring it up anymore.  

Here is the paper written by the Demo company that supervised the final demo of ground zero.

Implosion World

Actually I quit debateing you because it is not a debate.  It is like I am talking to a wall.  You do not even consider or look into the evidence I offer.  And then you retort with one little sight that is worse then any of the CT's site Brown has offered.  I don't know if you know this, but the official story that you stand so proudly behind, is a CONSPIRACY THEORY!
They have no evidence Bin Ladin had anything to do with it, they have no evidence linking the 19 hijackers, they have no proof a plane hit the pentagon, these are all just theories until proven.

[altruismsuffers]

I have no idea who Brown is but I know he has a brain because he can see that the official story is a sham.

[papaspot]

quote:Originally posted by altruismsuffers

I have no idea who Brown is but I know he has a brain because he can see that the official story is a sham.

Your comment would have been much more honest if you had said:

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I have no idea who Brown is but I know he has a brain because he agrees with me.

As it is, it's just posturing, plain and simple.

[iplaw]

quote:
Actually I quit debateing you because it is not a debate. It is like I am talking to a wall. You do not even consider or look into the evidence I offer. And then you retort with one little sight that is worse then any of the CT's site Brown has offered. I don't know if you know this, but the official story that you stand so proudly behind, is a CONSPIRACY THEORY!

Nah. You're just getting tired of getting owned.  A critical analysis from the foremost demolition specialists in the USA is not worth reading to you?  

Your in way over your head debating me in any topic related to science, mathematics or common sense for that matter.  You routinely get embarassed and I don't blame you for not wanting anymore...but you seem to come back for more every time.  Reminds me of a animal house...THANK YOU SIR MAY I HAVE ANOTHER!

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They have no evidence Bin Ladin had anything to do with it, they have no evidence linking the 19 hijackers, they have no proof a plane hit the pentagon, these are all just theories until proven.

Yeah, just that nasty little confession of his and his claim of responsibility...and as for the Pentagon the eyewitness accounts of people seeing a AA jet fly into the Pentagon are probably just part of that conspiracy too.  

[iplaw]

Brownsfan:
TGR:

Here is set of modest requests:  

1.  Bring me ONE and only ONE credible, credentialed person/paper in the demolition field that will attest to the term "PULL IT" being used to describe explosive demolition.

OR

2.  ONE seismic study showing explosions occurring AFTER the initial plane impacts.

OR

3.  ONE Structural Engineering study performed by a Structural Engineer supporting your demolition theory.

ALT has FAILED to do even ONE of any of the three.  See if you can do better than him.

[papaspot]

I'd also like to see the two upstarts answer a question that Alt has refused to even ATTEMPT to answer.

Why would the government go to all this trouble and take all these risks when they could have accomplished the same thing with a fraction of the trouble and a fraction of the risk (not to mention a fraction of the expense).

[iplaw]

Brownsfan and TGR:

Have we given up?

[TheArtist]

Havent read anything on this post, not going to, but looked like a good place to put this.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/129909/family_guy_osama_bin_laden/

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by papaspot

I'd also like to see the two upstarts answer a question that Alt has refused to even ATTEMPT to answer.

Why would the government go to all this trouble and take all these risks when they could have accomplished the same thing with a fraction of the trouble and a fraction of the risk (not to mention a fraction of the expense).

Good point Spot, the U.S. Gov't could have just blown up a foreign embassy, or another one of it's navy ships, said it was OBL, then re-started the war in Iraq.  Wonder why Bush didn't think of that one instead of authorizing the attack on Manhattan and the Pentagon? [}:)]