Keith Olberman the NEW Edward R. Murrow

[aoxamaxoa]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:
Boy, talk about a rewrite of history.

Please point out the flaws in my reasoning.  What part of autonomous soverign nation do you not understand?  I thought only Bush attacked soverign nations?  What part of the "cut and run" that we did in Somalia don't you understand?  Did you not know that Osama discussed Somalia directly or was that another news story that passed you by?

Hmmm...I can't imagine why I would say we looked WEAK...thanks Bubba:

BIN LADEN: We experienced the Americans through our brothers who went into combat against them in Somalia, for example. We found they had no power worthy of mention. There was a huge aura over America -- the United States -- that terrified people even before they entered combat. Our brothers who were here in Afghanistan tested them, and together with some of the mujahedeen in Somalia, God granted them victory. America exited dragging its tails in failure, defeat, and ruin, caring for nothing.

America left faster than anyone expected. It forgot all that tremendous media fanfare about the new world order, that it is the master of that order, and that it does whatever it wants. It forgot all of these propositions, gathered up its army, and withdrew in defeat, thanks be to God.

Yep, better to cut and run than get waste deep in big muddy with a damn fool saying to push on. Especially in comparrison of Somalia and Iraq. What part don't you get?

Here, Rudy's one of yer boys...
Giuliani defends Clinton on anti-terror
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060928/ap_on_re_us/giuliani_clinton;_ylt=AozXfZfeAeI55G9RLxDdG82s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3OXIzMDMzBHNlYwM3MDM-

Watch KO tonight...he will cover lots of interesting tansitions of the day...
Like seeing the Senate further erode our rights created by our forefathers...and weakens our stature as a defender of human rights....http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060928/ap_on_go_co/congress_terrorism;_ylt=AkxdiEXEgCM7s7POeaxG1Mes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
and like maybe this...http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/wire/sns-ap-gonzales-judges,1,2558676.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines&ctrack=1&cset=true

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

I disagree, iplaw. Murrow had his own opinions about freedom and the Constitution, and he stated them during the McCarthy era. He saw what he thought was a demagogue, and he wasn't afraid to say so.

To call him unbiased simply isn't true. I certainly agree with Murrow and his assessment, but I'd never call him unbiased.

Bias comes from our life experience, logic and education. It's just that some have more experience, logic and education, and thus, more credibility, with this bias than others.

And some people are less educated, less experienced, and they fail to recognize hack journalism for the electioneering that it really is.  They take a biased commentary and for some reason think it's credible because it was on their TV, radio, or favorite blog spot.  People think just because someone is being paid a six, seven, or eight figure income to spout their opinion that they have credibility.  

Rush Limbaugh is arguably the highest paid pundit and far as I know, he dropped out of college.  He's made some points over the years that are good and shone the light on some things we never otherwise would have heard of, but overall, he's a mouthpiece for the conservatives and if he wasn't being paid as much as he is for his opinions, he'd be an afternoon drive guy on a local radio station or sportscaster on a local affiliate.

Many of these "credible" pundits we see on TV aren't there because they had credibility to start with- they had entertainment value.  Entertainment sells advertising.  "He fits the suit, he's got an acid tongue, and he's charming, nevermind he's a nitwit we'll tell him what to say."

Every journalist has personal bias, no doubt.  At least as late as the 1980's when I was taking comp and journalism courses, it was drilled into your head that unless you were writing on the Op-Ed page, you were to keep your opinions neutral when reporting.  I'm not sure if this code of honor is even taught anymore or not.

Edward R. Murrow, Walter Cronkite and the like were men of honor, I don't see any honor in the pundits on the Republican and Democratic payrolls.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:
Boy, talk about a rewrite of history.

Please point out the flaws in my reasoning.  What part of autonomous soverign nation do you not understand?  I thought only Bush attacked soverign nations?  What part of the "cut and run" that we did in Somalia don't you understand?  Did you not know that Osama discussed Somalia directly or was that another news story that passed you by?

Hmmm...I can't imagine why I would say we looked WEAK...thanks Bubba:

BIN LADEN: We experienced the Americans through our brothers who went into combat against them in Somalia, for example. We found they had no power worthy of mention. There was a huge aura over America -- the United States -- that terrified people even before they entered combat. Our brothers who were here in Afghanistan tested them, and together with some of the mujahedeen in Somalia, God granted them victory. America exited dragging its tails in failure, defeat, and ruin, caring for nothing.

America left faster than anyone expected. It forgot all that tremendous media fanfare about the new world order, that it is the master of that order, and that it does whatever it wants. It forgot all of these propositions, gathered up its army, and withdrew in defeat, thanks be to God.

Yep, better to cut and run than get waste deep in big muddy with a damn fool saying to push on. Especially in comparrison of Somalia and Iraq. What part don't you get?

Here, Rudy's one of yer boys...
Giuliani defends Clinton on anti-terror
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060928/ap_on_re_us/giuliani_clinton;_ylt=AozXfZfeAeI55G9RLxDdG82s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3OXIzMDMzBHNlYwM3MDM-

Watch KO tonight...he will cover lots of interesting tansitions of the day...
Like seeing the Senate further erode our rights created by our forefathers...and weakens our stature as a defender of human rights....http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060928/ap_on_go_co/congress_terrorism;_ylt=AkxdiEXEgCM7s7POeaxG1Mes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
and like maybe this...http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/wire/sns-ap-gonzales-judges,1,2558676.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines&ctrack=1&cset=true

AOX-

Twelve of your beloved liberals broke rank on that vote.  Secondly, it's being done to protect the rights our forefather's envisioned for us to remain sovereign and to be able to protect ourselves.  Why are you more interested in the rights of our enemies than the rights of our citizens?

Somehow, I have this odd feeling that if I were to cut and paste a conservative's commentary as you do liberal commentary, you would castigate me for having no original ideas.

[aoxamaxoa]

Conman, I don't think so. You do not know what your enemies look like.

You eunichs keep calling me liberal. In Oklahoma, you really don't see true liberals.

Time to stop being liberals and start being the opposition again.

[aoxamaxoa]

Look for this on KO tonight.....perverts! I bet Rush defends him....

Republican Foley resigns House seat
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060929/pl_nm/usa_politics_foley_dc_2

The really sick and juicey stuff comes after 5 on Fridays. That's why KO is fun to watch on Fridays.....

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

Conman, I don't think so. You do not know what your enemies look like.

You eunichs keep calling me liberal. In Oklahoma, you really don't see true liberals.

Time to stop being liberals and start being the opposition again.

Aoxymoron- well spoken and predictable drivel from you.

[iplaw]

Nice pathetic dodge and weave away from my post.  I'll give you one more chance to make your case.

quote:
Here, Rudy's one of yer boys...
Giuliani defends Clinton on anti-terror

Did you actually read that?  He praised Bush right along with Clinton...so I take it you are in agreement with him?  What a yutz...

[aoxamaxoa]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

Nice pathetic dodge and weave away from my post.  I'll give you one more chance to make your case.

quote:
Here, Rudy's one of yer boys...
Giuliani defends Clinton on anti-terror

Did you actually read that?  He praised Bush right along with Clinton...so I take it you are in agreement with him?  What a yutz...

well duh. can Rudy afford to distance himself from shrub...no.

And yes. I am proud to be a member of the opposition. Beats being a lemming....

[aoxamaxoa]

Can't wait to see Foley get ripped. Co chair of subcommittee on child abuse as he sends suggestive material to underage male pages. This hypocrisy in the Republican ranks is unparallel. Stay tuned. Next week Bob Woodward. Do you wonder if they can keep Abramoff scandals quiet until after the mid terms?

Watch Olberman to get the real raw stories....with a touch of humor despite all the sadness.....

[aoxamaxoa]

COUNTDOWN RULES!!!!

Where else could we find out that there is no plan for Iraq. Today, a weekend long curfew was instilled because of rumors of a potential military coup. Nowhere else can you find this news.

Then the Rodger (FOX FOUNDER) Ailes media advisor who in the Raygun years held up cue cards to Veep Shrub Senior to attack Dan Rather during an interview...Fox is merely an extension of the Republican party. No doubt.

The Oddball section was really funny tonight.

Then the George Allen segment. Wow. A rugby coach's wife, Pat Waring, testimonial that Sen. Allen used the N word over and over during late 70's rugby games. Instead of Allen admitting youthful indiscretion, he ducked and ran upon being confronted on the issue by Ms. Waring. What? And this guy thought he was Presidential material? Loved Keith's story about Coach Allen soliciting KO to help with plays for a flag football game. IMPOSTERS!

I loved hearing Hasterts rendition of our anthem....speaker of the house? He does not know our national anthem. What a joke!

Great show Keith. Show America's political bastards reality.

Oh. Foley need not be ripped. He screwed himself. What a pervert.

[Rico]

This really has nothing to do with Mister Olberman or Mister Murrow...

However: it is just one of those things that makes you go hmmmmmm..

The following News Report, in regards to the urgent curfew in Baghdad Iraq, has me wondering...

"Thailand 2"?



BAGHDAD, Sept 30 (Reuters) - Iraq's government shut down the capital with a one-day curfew on Saturday, ordering all cars and pedestrians off the streets, but giving no reason for the measure.

The curfew would remain in place until 6:00 a.m. (0200) on Sunday, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's office said in a one- line statement. The U.S. military did not comment.

The announcement came after a week of clashes and bombings heralded the start of the holy month of Ramadan. U.S. commanders say the past week saw a record number of suicide bombings and the last two weeks have seen a surge in violence.

Although no explanation was given for the curfew, residents of the Adamiya neighbourhood in the north of the capital said they heard gunfire and explosions near dusk on Friday.




The above article coupled with the recent escalation in violents and recent threats made by Kurdishstan in regards to Oil Exploration Rights...
Has to make one wonder...

How long before the Iraqi Military is ready to take complete and absolute charge of the Country....?

[Hoss]

I've been watching Keith for over a year now.  O'Reilly is right-wing hack with a volume problem.  What kind of a moron denies a person the right to say Keith Olbermann's name on air and then threatens to send "Fox Security" to 'pay you a little visit'?

The NeoCons are hard pressed to even be in the same room with the Decider-in-Chief.  He's abusing his powers, and now he's essentially pushed a bill that will suspend the writ of Habeus Corpus.

What's next?  The repeal of the 22nd Amendment? (For those of you not wanting to search and don't know, that amendment is the one that limits the term of president to two terms only)

I gave Bush and his croneys plenty of support in 03, when they made the push into Iraq.  Cheney said he couldn't see being in there more than six months.  Well, here it is, three years and over 3000 soldiers dead later.

Bush is this generation's Nixon.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by Rico...

How long before the Iraqi Military is ready to take complete and absolute charge of the Country....?[/black][/size=2]

Cheney and company are probably hoping never...

[aoxamaxoa]

Hoss! Snap brutha!

Who else has balls here!

[aoxamaxoa]

Watch Olberman on Monday. Maybe he can answer why Mark Foley was not arrested and led away in handcuffs yesterday for soliciting sex from an underaged person.

Let me know if any other news reports ask this question.