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Starting a war with Iran?

Started by aoxamaxoa, October 07, 2006, 01:59:55 PM

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aoxamaxoa

"Iran to hit U.S. interests if attacked "

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070208/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_us

"Javad Zarif, warned in a column in The New York Times that efforts to isolate Iran would backfire on the United States, increasing sectarian tensions in the volatile Middle East, including Iraq"

"Speaking to a gathering of air force commanders, Khamenei said: "The enemy knows well that any invasion would be followed by a comprehensive reaction to the invaders and their interests all over the world."

"Last week, a publication called Sobh-e Sadegh, the official publication of the Revolutionary Guards, also warned against American attacks, pointing out that because the U.S. has large numbers of troops in Iraq,Afghanistan, central Asia and Europe, it would be easy to kidnap Americans in retaliation."

tim huntzinger

A blockade and air campaign would not comprise an invasion, so we are in the clear!  Bombs away!

aoxamaxoa

"Meanwhile, a series of recent moves by the military have lent credence to widespread reports that the U.S. is secretly preparing for a massive air attack against Iran. (No one is suggesting a ground invasion.)"


"From the Wonderful Folks Who Brought You Iraq
The same neocon ideologues behind the Iraq war have been using the same tactics—alliances with shady exiles, dubious intelligence on W.M.D.—to push for the bombing of Iran. As President Bush ups the pressure on Tehran, is he planning to double his Middle East bet?
by Craig Unger March 2007 "

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/03/whitehouse200703?printable=true¤tPage=all

Rico

One very small question on this Bomb strike....

If Iran has the makings of nuclear weapons... such as refined Uranium etc....... Wouldn't an explosive strike on this material create the same scenario as a "Dirty Bomb"..? or do we care..?

oops.. guess that was two...

iplaw

quote:
Originally posted by Rico

One very small question on this Bomb strike....

If Iran has the makings of nuclear weapons... such as refined Uranium etc....... Wouldn't an explosive strike on this material create the same scenario as a "Dirty Bomb"..? or do we care..?

oops.. guess that was two...



Interesting question.  I supposed we would say that they shouldn't be in possession of those materials to begin with...I guess given the choice I'd rather have a dirty bomb scenario over Tehran than a thermonuclear one over Tel Aviv.

tim huntzinger

Well I suppose that bobmbing would hit power plants and bridges and communication centers, and isolate the production facilities rather than blow them up.

aoxamaxoa

"Credible Report: Iran Offered Comprehensive Talks with U.S. and the Recognition of Israel. Condi Rice Pulls a Scooter Libby and Claims That She Can't Quite Remember It All. "

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002512.php


she needs to get laid

aoxamaxoa

"No plans to invade Iran

In response to Khamenei's comments the White House said it has no plans to invade Iran, and downplayed the significance of reinforcing the US military presence in the Gulf region. "


http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,9294,2-10-1462_2067017,00.html

if it came from the White House it ain't no lie.....

aoxamaxoa

quote:
Originally posted by iplaw

Is it just me or does President Tom:



look like:

Ringo Starr in Caveman?





"Please remember peace and how we made it...." Ringo

shadows

Quote: she needs to get laid

Are we talking about the Sally and Jefferson affair in France?
Or the current times where the first lady was reported to have moved into a Hotel for some unknown reason?
Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

aoxamaxoa

No! Condi needs to get laid. Her thinking is all dicked up.

First Lady? Seperate beds by now for sure.

Maybe Condi and Shrub need to hook up to alleviate all the distress.....

aoxamaxoa

It's all about Tommy boy....what a pity if the Bushevik's invade Iran.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070211/ts_nm/iran_nuclear1_dc_4

"Ahmadinejad, under pressure at home to tone down speeches his critics say have helped push Iran toward international isolation, said he would keep within international regulations but still ruled out a UN demand to suspend uranium enrichment."


It would be a sad day if the US refused to keep the degree of such Iranian involvement in perspective. I could see an all out Iranian army attack being a good reason for the US to become aggresive. But don't accept this miniscule finding a absolute truth and a reason to fight. Perspective please.

"U.S.-led forces show evidence of Iran arms in Iraq "

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070211/ts_nm/iraq3_dc_2


"BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Officials of the U.S.-led coalition on Sunday showed what they said were examples of Iranian weapons used to kill 170 of their soldiers and implicated high-level Iranian involvement in training Iraqi militants. "

aoxamaxoa

I find it interesting that the Conman, Ipsqueak, and Gwee doe doe neo conish et al seem to be so focused on Al Gore and global warming when much bigger issues are at hand!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17050142/

"A Blown Chance?
A document obtained by NEWSWEEK suggests the Bush team had a shot at meaningful diplomacy with Iran in 2003. What happened—and how the hardliners may be courting war."

"The Bush administration intends "to be as provocative as possible and make the Iranians do something they would be forced to retaliate for," says Hillary Mann, the former director for Iran and Persian Gulf Affairs on the National Security Council under Condoleezza Rice during Bush's first term."

"Mann, as well as former senior administration officials such as former secretary of State Colin Powell and his then-top deputy, Richard Armitage, say the president has ignored or played down a number of opportunities to negotiate—especially in the era before Ahmadinejad was elected in 2005."

"According to the document, a copy of which was obtained by NEWSWEEK, Tehran plainly laid out the two countries' "aims" and proposed "steps" to resolve them "in mutual respect." The document, believed to reflect the views of Iran's president at the time, the moderate Mohammad Khatami, proposes negotiations on most of the main outstanding issues of interest to Washington—including Iran's nuclear program, its support for Hizbullah and Hamas and terrorism in general, and stabilizing Iraq."

"Wilkerson added that it "was a non-starter so long as [Dick] Cheney was VP and the principal influence on Bush." The hardline vice president has long been known as an opponent of diplomatic engagement. Mann and Leverett say it was a historic missed opportunity."

"We may know soon. A senior administration official says that, after four months of silence, the chief Iranian nuclear negotiator, Ali Larijani, is expected to meet within days in Munich with his European counterpart, Javier Solana, who is representing Germany, France and Great Britain in talks backed by the United States. Says Burns: "We have the sense that there's a turbulent environment inside Iran itself. There's a great deal of opposition to Ahmadinejad's failed policies, and a lot of Iranians seem to understand that they're being isolated." We can only hope that if a conversation starts, both sides listen."

MichaelC





I've always thought these two guys looked way too much alike.

iplaw

Wow...not even close to funny, but I'll give you a C+ for effort!