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iplaw

#60
October 19, 2006, 05:34:07 PM
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But it will only continue to work as long as people demand that it continue to work.

The system has redundancy built in.  We don't really need to demand it.

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I don't know what you'd call Congress abandoning its Constitutional responsibility and giving Bush a blank check to wage war.

That's your opinion.  Congress seems to think that it was the proper response.  If the American people don't like it, they can elect new numbskulls to change the policies that the old ones created.

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Yep. That would be my guess.

I think you're getting a bit conspiratorial.

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And that's just how I like it. Say what you want about gridlock, I'm REAL uncomfortable with the White House and both Houses of Congress being controlled by the same party.

Again, if we don't like it we change the players.  Several times in our history the same party has controled two branches, rarely even three, and we all survived.

papaspot

#61
October 19, 2006, 05:58:31 PM
There are a few things that are different now than how things were in the past. For one thing, politicians will stop at nothing. Remember that the Republicans impeached Clinton over a hummer and now it's no holds barred. And you'd better believe that if Congress was controlled by the Democrats, Bush would have been impeached a long time ago.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke

aoxamaxoa

#63
October 19, 2006, 06:09:42 PM
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Originally posted by papaspot

There are a few things that are different now than how things were in the past. For one thing, politicians will stop at nothing. Remember that the Republicans impeached Clinton over a hummer and now it's no holds barred. And you'd better believe that if Congress was controlled by the Democrats, Bush would have been impeached a long time ago.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke


Uh. BC got impeached for "lying".

iplaw

#64
October 19, 2006, 06:14:43 PM
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Originally posted by papaspot

There are a few things that are different now than how things were in the past. For one thing, politicians will stop at nothing.


A wise man once said that nothing is new under the sun.  There are no new ideas, just old ones rehashed by new people.  We've seen it all before and we've survived and grown for the better.

iplaw

#65
October 19, 2006, 06:15:40 PM
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Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

quote:
Originally posted by papaspot

There are a few things that are different now than how things were in the past. For one thing, politicians will stop at nothing. Remember that the Republicans impeached Clinton over a hummer and now it's no holds barred. And you'd better believe that if Congress was controlled by the Democrats, Bush would have been impeached a long time ago.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke


Uh. BC got impeached for "lying".

Yeah, that's the b!tch of perjuring yourself before a grand jury.  I thought you Dems wanted the president to obey the laws?

guido911

#66
October 19, 2006, 08:35:34 PM
Papa:
"But why should YOU care? They're not Americans. Hell, they're not even WHITE."

Scr#w you! Where do you get off accusing me of being a racist. Typical liberal wuss. Lose an argument, resort to name-calling.



Okay moderator, let me have it...
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

papaspot

#67
October 20, 2006, 06:43:24 AM
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Originally posted by iplaw

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Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

quote:
Originally posted by papaspot

There are a few things that are different now than how things were in the past. For one thing, politicians will stop at nothing. Remember that the Republicans impeached Clinton over a hummer and now it's no holds barred. And you'd better believe that if Congress was controlled by the Democrats, Bush would have been impeached a long time ago.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke


Uh. BC got impeached for "lying".

Yeah, that's the b!tch of perjuring yourself before a grand jury.  I thought you Dems wanted the president to obey the laws?


Yeah, that was the cover story. Clinton was impeached for being a popular Democratic president during a New Age Republican Congress. You're a lawyer, tell us why after fifty or sixty million bucks and a long witch hunt Clinton was never charged with perjury? Oh, what they hey, I'll tell us why. Political whore that he was, even Ken Starr knew that they didn't have a snowballs chance in Hell of getting a conviction. Since there's no shortage of people that believe that a bj isn't "sex" (if you don't believe it, just take an anonymous survey among young ladies at a Christian university that claim to be virgins), it would have been damn tough to prove intent. There's even have a saying in the U.S. that "eatin' ain't cheatin'".

papaspot

#68
October 20, 2006, 06:48:27 AM
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Originally posted by guido911

Papa:
"But why should YOU care? They're not Americans. Hell, they're not even WHITE."

Scr#w you! Where do you get off accusing me of being a racist. Typical liberal wuss. Lose an argument, resort to name-calling.



Okay moderator, let me have it...


Does your mommy know you're playing on the computer?

iplaw

#69
October 20, 2006, 08:23:23 AM
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Originally posted by papaspot

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Originally posted by iplaw

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Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

quote:
Originally posted by papaspot

There are a few things that are different now than how things were in the past. For one thing, politicians will stop at nothing. Remember that the Republicans impeached Clinton over a hummer and now it's no holds barred. And you'd better believe that if Congress was controlled by the Democrats, Bush would have been impeached a long time ago.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke


Uh. BC got impeached for "lying".

Yeah, that's the b!tch of perjuring yourself before a grand jury.  I thought you Dems wanted the president to obey the laws?


Yeah, that was the cover story. Clinton was impeached for being a popular Democratic president during a New Age Republican Congress. You're a lawyer, tell us why after fifty or sixty million bucks and a long witch hunt Clinton was never charged with perjury? Oh, what they hey, I'll tell us why. Political whore that he was, even Ken Starr knew that they didn't have a snowballs chance in Hell of getting a conviction. Since there's no shortage of people that believe that a bj isn't "sex" (if you don't believe it, just take an anonymous survey among young ladies at a Christian university that claim to be virgins), it would have been damn tough to prove intent. There's even have a saying in the U.S. that "eatin' ain't cheatin'".

Tell that to your wife; I bet she'll buy that line...

Talk about spin...bottom line is that he perjured himself before a grand jury, period.  The state bar and supreme court don't take it lightly either which is why he was summarily suspended by one and disbarred by the other.

aoxamaxoa

#70
October 20, 2006, 02:25:38 PM
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/200601019_after_pats_birthday/

"don't be shocked when our grandkids bury much of this generation as traitors to the nation, to the world and to humanity.  Most likely, they will come to know that "somehow" was nurtured by fear, insecurity and indifference, leaving the country vulnerable to unchecked, unchallenged parasites. "

Heroes. What do they know. Probably has a fith grade education....

guido911

#71
October 20, 2006, 04:48:37 PM
aox:

In just the last 150 years, our country has had legalized slavery, prohibited women from voting, segregated white and black children in schools, destroyed the lives and culture of numerous indigenous peoples of this country, interned innocent U.S. citizens of Japanese descent. Yes, only now will future generations believe ours is traitorous because foreign-born terrorists are not entitled to habeas rights.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

aoxamaxoa

#72
October 20, 2006, 06:47:15 PM
Let's wait and see how the Busheviks abuse their totalitarian rules....

guido911

#73
October 20, 2006, 07:31:18 PM
aox. As much as I disagree with RWARN. Listen to him.

BTW, can you please be original? Busheviks?
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

papaspot

#74
October 21, 2006, 11:46:33 AM
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Originally posted by iplaw

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Originally posted by papaspot

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Originally posted by iplaw

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Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

quote:
Originally posted by papaspot

There are a few things that are different now than how things were in the past. For one thing, politicians will stop at nothing. Remember that the Republicans impeached Clinton over a hummer and now it's no holds barred. And you'd better believe that if Congress was controlled by the Democrats, Bush would have been impeached a long time ago.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke


Uh. BC got impeached for "lying".

Yeah, that's the b!tch of perjuring yourself before a grand jury.  I thought you Dems wanted the president to obey the laws?


Yeah, that was the cover story. Clinton was impeached for being a popular Democratic president during a New Age Republican Congress. You're a lawyer, tell us why after fifty or sixty million bucks and a long witch hunt Clinton was never charged with perjury? Oh, what they hey, I'll tell us why. Political whore that he was, even Ken Starr knew that they didn't have a snowballs chance in Hell of getting a conviction. Since there's no shortage of people that believe that a bj isn't "sex" (if you don't believe it, just take an anonymous survey among young ladies at a Christian university that claim to be virgins), it would have been damn tough to prove intent. There's even have a saying in the U.S. that "eatin' ain't cheatin'".

Tell that to your wife; I bet she'll buy that line...

Talk about spin...bottom line is that he perjured himself before a grand jury, period.  The state bar and supreme court don't take it lightly either which is why he was summarily suspended by one and disbarred by the other.




You're an attorney, s'pose YOU tell us why after all that effort to hang him he was never tried for perjury if it wasn't for the fact that they knew they couldn't get a conviction. And, as you WELL KNOW, the burden of proof is much lighter for action by a bar than it is for a criminal conviction.

And you'll be very wise to leave my wife out of any discussions here. Talk about SPIN, try not to be such a damn hypocrite. NOWHERE did I even IMPLY that I thought it was all right. That was pretty chickensh*t even for a right wing lawyer.
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