Nuclear Secrets

[Conan71]

With the news this morning about nuclear secrets being taken from the internet, I did some Googling to refresh my memory on previous stories like this, here's one particular gem:

"Missing nuclear secrets found behind Los Alamos copy machine"

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/06/16/losalamos.disks/

[aoxamaxoa]

Sounds like you are either part of a cover up or part of the spin machine.

"Expert: GOP plays politics with intel
WASHINGTON, Nov. 3 (UPI) -- Muted Republican reaction to news that nuclear weapons information was posted on a government Web site has been slammedby non-proliferation experts."
http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php?StoryID=20061103-030156-6711r

"U.S. Web Archive Is Said to Reveal a Nuclear Primer"
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/03/world/middleeast/03documents.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin


"If Democrats had done that there would be mobs carrying torches in the streets tonight.
The Democrats would be accused of treason and there would be calls for resignation."

[aoxamaxoa]

http://www.internetweekly.org/2006/11/cartoon_islamofascist_cookbook.html

George Bush's Islamofascist Nuclear Cookbook

IMPEACH!!!!!!!!

[aoxamaxoa]

The Top 10 Conservative Idiots

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/top10/267

1)"Vote Republican If You Think It's A Good Idea To Put Detailed Atom Bomb Plans On The Internet For Anyone To See"
2)"Vote Republican If You Want To Stay The Course In Iraq"
3)"Vote Republican If You Think The President Should Get Advice On Gay-Bashing From A Pastor Who Secretly Bangs Male Prostitutes"
4)"Vote Republican If You Think The Best Way To Deal With A Child Predator Is To Cover Your Own donkey"
10)"Vote Republican If You Still Think That This Crew In Congress Isn't The Most Corrupt, Hypocritical, Useless Bunch Of Asshats You've Ever Seen In Your Life"

[guido911]

I thought there wasn't a nuclear program in Iraq. I mean, Joe Wilson said so. Oh, Merry Fitzmas

[rwarn17588]

There wasn't one when Joe Wilson went there.

The nuclear program the recent articles refer to means before the first Iraq War in 1991, genius.

After the war, no nuclear program in Iraq existed.

[Chicken Little]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

I thought there wasn't a nuclear program in Iraq. I mean, Joe Wilson said so. Oh, Merry Fitzmas

The docs were from the late '70s.  Remember in 1981 when Israel bombed their reactor into talcum powder?

Then I seem to recall Saddam had a little trouble in '90-'91.  I'm sure the guy still wanted to be a bad*ss, but after the Gulf War, Saddam wasn't an external threat.

The nuclear cookbook was of little value to anyone until the feds posted it.  It was in ARABIC fer chrissake!  This is a major screw up.

[aoxamaxoa]

quote:Originally posted by Chicken Little

quote:Originally posted by guido911

I thought there wasn't a nuclear program in Iraq. I mean, Joe Wilson said so. Oh, Merry Fitzmas

The docs were from the late '70s.  Remember in 1981 when Israel bombed their reactor into talcum powder?

Then I seem to recall Saddam had a little trouble in '90-'91.  I'm sure the guy still wanted to be a bad*ss, but after the Gulf War, Saddam wasn't an external threat.

The nuclear cookbook was of little value to anyone until the feds posted it.  It was in ARABIC fer chrissake!  This is a major screw up.

If it had happened under the dems, the story would be much bigger.... they'd have the tar and feathers ready.

[robbyfoxxxx]

When Saddam killed those Kurds, the American government did'nt care, in fact, we continued to buy oil from Iraq as if nothing happened.We even sold WMD to Iraq!http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/12/31/world/main534798.shtml

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

quote:Originally posted by Chicken Little

quote:Originally posted by guido911

I thought there wasn't a nuclear program in Iraq. I mean, Joe Wilson said so. Oh, Merry Fitzmas

The docs were from the late '70s.  Remember in 1981 when Israel bombed their reactor into talcum powder?

Then I seem to recall Saddam had a little trouble in '90-'91.  I'm sure the guy still wanted to be a bad*ss, but after the Gulf War, Saddam wasn't an external threat.

The nuclear cookbook was of little value to anyone until the feds posted it.  It was in ARABIC fer chrissake!  This is a major screw up.

If it had happened under the dems, the story would be much bigger.... they'd have the tar and feathers ready.

Right, like when Bill Richardson was the Energy Secretary under Bill Clinton and nuclear secrets were disappearing to China and Chinese were donating to Clinton's '96 campaign.  Ever notice how that whimpered off into oblivion?

This post wasn't politically motivated, just pointing out the irony that there seems to have been a sieve under our countries nuclear secrets dating back to the Rosenburgs.

I highly doubt that the "secrets" which were on the internet were of any use to anyone- nobody is that friggin' stupid.

[snopes]

Conan, EVERYTHING is political to Aox. Every bad thing that has happened is a direct result of the "Repugnicans." []

[Conan71]

Snopes, I love the new avatar!  Go kitty Go!

[snopes]

Ya, that's one bad kitty. Rambo kitty!

[Chicken Little]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

I highly doubt that the "secrets" which were on the internet were of any use to anyone- nobody is that friggin' stupid.

Nobody?  IAEA technical experts were "shocked" at the public disclosures.

quote: The documents, roughly a dozen in number, contain charts, diagrams, equations and lengthy narratives about bomb building that nuclear experts who have viewed them say go beyond what is available elsewhere on the Internet and in other public forums. For instance, the papers give detailed information on how to build nuclear firing circuits and triggering explosives, as well as the radioactive cores of atom bombs.

Sounds pretty monumentally stupid to me.  Why would someone do this?  

quote: The Bush administration did so under pressure from Congressional Republicans who had said they hoped to "leverage the Internet" to find new evidence of the prewar dangers posed by Saddam Hussein.

Politics.  That's a good reason, don't ya think?[xx(]

[snopes]

quote:Originally posted by Chicken Little

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

I highly doubt that the "secrets" which were on the internet were of any use to anyone- nobody is that friggin' stupid.

Nobody?  IAEA technical experts were "shocked" at the public disclosures.

quote: The documents, roughly a dozen in number, contain charts, diagrams, equations and lengthy narratives about bomb building that nuclear experts who have viewed them say go beyond what is available elsewhere on the Internet and in other public forums. For instance, the papers give detailed information on how to build nuclear firing circuits and triggering explosives, as well as the radioactive cores of atom bombs.

Sounds pretty monumentally stupid to me.  Why would someone do this?

CL, I don't know if  you've ever worked in or with the government but most government employees aren't the brightest of the bunch. I've worked with the Defense Department and several other branches of the government through contracts and to be honest, the only prerequisites for most government employees is that they are capable of passing a background check. Once many of these people get into their positions, they are rarely fired or even get pushed to do better. They become stagnant and dumb themselves down to the lowest common denominator. This opinion isn't political, it's just my observation.