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Started by carltonplace, December 11, 2006, 08:24:02 AM

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carltonplace

Not sure if this is news, but the McBirney mansion is for sale and the potential buyers intend to build a hotel on the property.

The specifics are: The mansion would be "restored" and the parking moved to the back of the property. A skywalk would be added to the house that would connect to five new structures built down on the lawn facing the river. The existing spring and grotto would remain, with a hot tub and pool added next to the spring. More parking would be built under the new addition with access from Riverside Drive.

tulsa1603

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Originally posted by carltonplace

Not sure if this is news, but the McBirney mansion is for sale and the potential buyers intend to build a hotel on the property.

The specifics are: The mansion would be "restored" and the parking moved to the back of the property. A skywalk would be added to the house that would connect to five new structures built down on the lawn facing the river. The existing spring and grotto would remain, with a hot tub and pool added next to the spring. More parking would be built under the new addition with access from Riverside Drive.




eww...i can picture it already.  A cheap hotel addition to a fine old oil money house.  While the house does need some work, I hate to see it f-ed up with some add-on hotel thing.
 

Breadburner

Lol...Good luck on getting that through....
 

carltonplace

I'm not happy about it, but the city and the Tulsa Preservation Commission have signed off. The developers are going to ask for a PUD to cover the zoning changes.

Renaissance

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Originally posted by tulsa1603

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Originally posted by carltonplace

Not sure if this is news, but the McBirney mansion is for sale and the potential buyers intend to build a hotel on the property.

The specifics are: The mansion would be "restored" and the parking moved to the back of the property. A skywalk would be added to the house that would connect to five new structures built down on the lawn facing the river. The existing spring and grotto would remain, with a hot tub and pool added next to the spring. More parking would be built under the new addition with access from Riverside Drive.




eww...i can picture it already.  A cheap hotel addition to a fine old oil money house.  While the house does need some work, I hate to see it f-ed up with some add-on hotel thing.



Well, it could end up being "cheap" and "f-ed up."  But when I think of a mansion being made into a hotel, the first thing that comes to mind is Dallas's Mansion at Turtle Creek.  It is far and away the nicest place to stay in Dallas, at least until the Ritz and the Mandarin open.  

http://www.mansiononturtlecreek.com/

I'll be interested to see just how upscale this thing ends up.  It seems like the sky is the limit, with Tulsa lacking a true luxury hotel and the combination of relative seclusion from the business district and easy access via Riverside Drive.  This could be a very exciting river development project.

TheArtist

I hope to goodness the new part matches the old.  Now if they would only demolish that ugly thing from the 70s across the street.

I bought my parents a night at the Mc Birney mansion bed and breakfast the Friday before X mas. There was only one room left and none for the weekend.

My parents love to travel and I remember going to many a mansion back east and and staying the night as a kid.  The Mc Birney mansion is right up there with the best of them in beaty and grandure.  I think they will be pleasantly suprised that we have something like this in Tulsa.
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tulsa1603

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Originally posted by Floyd

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Originally posted by tulsa1603

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Originally posted by carltonplace

Not sure if this is news, but the McBirney mansion is for sale and the potential buyers intend to build a hotel on the property.

The specifics are: The mansion would be "restored" and the parking moved to the back of the property. A skywalk would be added to the house that would connect to five new structures built down on the lawn facing the river. The existing spring and grotto would remain, with a hot tub and pool added next to the spring. More parking would be built under the new addition with access from Riverside Drive.




eww...i can picture it already.  A cheap hotel addition to a fine old oil money house.  While the house does need some work, I hate to see it f-ed up with some add-on hotel thing.



Well, it could end up being "cheap" and "f-ed up."  But when I think of a mansion being made into a hotel, the first thing that comes to mind is Dallas's Mansion at Turtle Creek.  It is far and away the nicest place to stay in Dallas, at least until the Ritz and the Mandarin open.  

http://www.mansiononturtlecreek.com/

I'll be interested to see just how upscale this thing ends up.  It seems like the sky is the limit, with Tulsa lacking a true luxury hotel and the combination of relative seclusion from the business district and easy access via Riverside Drive.  This could be a very exciting river development project.



I agree that it could be....I guess I felt like making that assumption, since generally that's what we're faced with in this town.  Must remain positive....must remain positive....it WILL be good [:D]
 

RecycleMichael

Here is a link to the McBirney mansion.

http://www.mcbirneymansion.com/

It has always been one of my favorite Tulsa buildings. Let's hope that the development complements this place.

I would love to have guests stay at a classy, small hotel overlooking the river and have events at the mansion.
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carltonplace

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Originally posted by TheArtist

I hope to goodness the new part matches the old.  Now if they would only demolish that ugly thing from the 70s across the street.




Are you speaking of the Olympian on Galveston? The Olympian is not that bad in my opinion...No, its not a pretty building but the owners take good care of it and the landscaping is always nice. I know you're not talking about the Spotlight Theater which is on the National Register of Historic Places like the McBirney.

TheArtist

"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

AVERAGE JOE

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Originally posted by carltonplace

I'm not happy about it, but the city and the Tulsa Preservation Commission have signed off. The developers are going to ask for a PUD to cover the zoning changes.


I don't recall the Tulsa Preservation Commission ever discussing this during one of their meetings. Are you sure they've "signed off" on this?

carltonplace

^ No I'm not certain, that is what the developer told me.

carltonplace


carltonplace

Here is the proposal. This is the view from Riverside Drive with the mansion on the far right


TheArtist

Hmmm, looks good so far.  Will be interesting to see what kind of amenities it has.  Any large interior spaces?  Will they have a restaurant, commons area,lobby/front desk, etc. other than what is in the mansion?  Reminds me of some of the old grand hotels they used to build in the national parks.  Especially the Canadian ones.
"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h