So much downtown development!

[Double A]

Amen. I don't think ya oughtta trash ole aox too much, the TyPros(gag) are working on a project to market Tulsa's attractions to Tulsans and TMSA residents to raise awareness and get feedback. Hell, I live in District 4 and most likely pass by alot of these places in my travels, yet I was unaware of some of these developments. I haven't been able to check out any of these emerging hot spots with the same endurance as others due to long hours at work(the curse of the drinking class). Maybe it's not such a bad idea. After all, with the flurry of new developments(not to mention the abundance of proposed developments) it is hard to keep up with everything that's going on.

[jdb]

The Steve Pryor Band played Saturday night at The Blue Dome, in conjunction with a Benefit for my riding brother who went down the Sunday before.

We had maybe 80 people show-up.

The event raised spirits, funds, and a little hell: all involved walked away happy.
A few patrons walked out scratching their expanded heads wondering what the hell they had just seen.
It gets little better than that.

Hey, anyone in here recall a monthly happening, called "The Phoenix Projext", back in the 80's in a tiny black box called the Phoenix Theatre?

Anyway, the poster who said "shows should be sched. better, so as to have big number turn-outs", is all wet and is a great example of what not to do to create a real district.

Inspired shows and events are not something one can sprinkle evenly over a calander.

Number are for yuppys and promoters.
Best one can hope for in a big crowd is a riot.
An experience occurrs in small groups.

There is not enough creative, thinking, hungry, spirits in Tulsa to fill a large venue - let alone an entire 'District'- of like minded people. Trendy couples 'out for a few drinks' are fun to taunt and shock, but they do not contribute to the magic of an event: except in that of the cover charge. Put money and numbers first and you miss the bus.

- jdb

[carltonplace]

DT Crowne Plaza Hotel announces a $10 million facelift including rooms, lobby, new restaurant, internet cafe, Starbucks and a Sky Bar with a pool

[aoxamaxoa]

quote:Originally posted by jdb

The Steve Pryor Band played Saturday night at The Blue Dome, in conjunction with a Benefit for my riding brother who went down the Sunday before.

We had maybe 80 people show-up.

The event raised spirits, funds, and a little hell: all involved walked away happy.
A few patrons walked out scratching their expanded heads wondering what the hell they had just seen.
It gets little better than that.

Hey, anyone in here recall a monthly happening, called "The Phoenix Projext", back in the 80's in a tiny black box called the Phoenix Theatre?

Anyway, the poster who said "shows should be sched. better, so as to have big number turn-outs", is all wet and is a great example of what not to do to create a real district.

Inspired shows and events are not something one can sprinkle evenly over a calander.

Number are for yuppys and promoters.
Best one can hope for in a big crowd is a riot.
An experience occurrs in small groups.

There is not enough creative, thinking, hungry, spirits in Tulsa to fill a large venue - let alone an entire 'District'- of like minded people. Trendy couples 'out for a few drinks' are fun to taunt and shock, but they do not contribute to the magic of an event: except in that of the cover charge. Put money and numbers first and you miss the bus.

- jdb

The auction was a riot....who bought that joint? The condoms no one bid on...
the slide show was great too!
Steve Pryor is one of Tulsa's greatest guitar players ever....glad he got his act together and his sobriety is a testament to overcoming one's evilness.....Bruno, it's the hollidaze and you come out swinging with your foul mouth....good timing....shows your true colors....Be like Pryor and do something about your issues.

[aoxamaxoa]

quote:Originally posted by carltonplace

DT Crowne Plaza Hotel announces a $10 million facelift including rooms, lobby, new restaurant, internet cafe, Starbucks and a Sky Bar with a pool

Sky bar by the pool sounds fun.....

[David Arnett]

FYI, born at Hillcrest (fourth generation), raised in South Tulsa; I attended Boy Scouts at Boston Ave and often skipped out during meetings just to walk among the skyscrapers at night - a walk I sill enjoy with my Great Dane.  After divorce and loss of 3,500 sq ft deep in south Tulsa (75th and Harvard) to a criminal ex-wife – I moved to a loft in downtown Tulsa in 2001 – before Vision 2025.  I loved it then and life is getting better each day with increased development.  In the last three years, I have put a total of 10,000 miles on my Land Rover (national average is 15,000 miles per year) as I can walk the four blocks to the day job.  I have a full music studio set up inside, a gourmet kitchen, high speed internet access, and all the niceties of quality living.  

Downtown is growing.  It is vibrant.  Like any other neighborhood, there are things that could be improved, but progress is underway.  As the 30,000 suburban living downtown workers were fighting the freezing streets and snow – I opened the window and watched it snow from my hot tub.  Life is good.

It is odd living in a place others want to talk about.  Reminds me of politics where everyone has an opinion regardless of experience, evidence, or education on the subject.  

Downtown is fine and getting better.  Private development does not depend on or greatly care for public opinion and there is much more going on than anyone knows yet.

[brunoflipper]

quote:Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

Bruno, it's the hollidaze and you come out swinging with your foul mouth....good timing....shows your true colors....Be like Pryor and do something about your issues.

what a crybaby... you made the statement and then tried to weasle out of it... if you going to be ignorant at least try and be consistent...  

awwww, come on... again with ad hominems? you can do better...

"true colors..."?... ouch, that hurts from a guy like you... how soon you forget... please, please send me more theatening PMs so i can post them for everyone to see...

[jdb]

Aox -

How about clipping just the portion of a post that actually applies to what you are making reference of?

Part of what makes these of these threads so unpleasnt to read is the long donkey quoting...

Where'd you sit Saturday night?

[perspicuity85]

quote:Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

A bit touchy about churchianity are we? The comment was not intended to be a "stab" but the aggressive type A's took it that way....

The church reference just sort of causes a knee-jerk reaction for a lot of people who grew up in Tulsa.  Most people I know from out of state immediately think ORU when they hear the word Tulsa.  No offense to any ORU people, but a right-wing ultra-conservative atmosphere is not exactly what most people think of as a fun place to live.  Tulsa's national perception, when it has a national perception, is that of right-wing evangelicals.  I find myself defending Tulsa against these type of perceptions quite frequently by saying "that's just a small part of the population," or "Tulsa's a diverse city, with many different religious groups and cultures."

[TheArtist]

quote:Originally posted by David Arnett

FYI, born at Hillcrest (fourth generation), raised in South Tulsa; I attended Boy Scouts at Boston Ave and often skipped out during meetings just to walk among the skyscrapers at night - a walk I sill enjoy with my Great Dane.  After divorce and loss of 3,500 sq ft deep in south Tulsa (75th and Harvard) to a criminal ex-wife – I moved to a loft in downtown Tulsa in 2001 – before Vision 2025.  I loved it then and life is getting better each day with increased development.  In the last three years, I have put a total of 10,000 miles on my Land Rover (national average is 15,000 miles per year) as I can walk the four blocks to the day job.  I have a full music studio set up inside, a gourmet kitchen, high speed internet access, and all the niceties of quality living.  

Downtown is growing.  It is vibrant.  Like any other neighborhood, there are things that could be improved, but progress is underway.  As the 30,000 suburban living downtown workers were fighting the freezing streets and snow – I opened the window and watched it snow from my hot tub.  Life is good.

It is odd living in a place others want to talk about.  Reminds me of politics where everyone has an opinion regardless of experience, evidence, or education on the subject.  

Downtown is fine and getting better.  Private development does not depend on or greatly care for public opinion and there is much more going on than anyone knows yet.

Sounds really good. []

[OKC_Shane]

Tulsa's fine.

The new entertainment districts in Tulsa are fine. It takes time for them to become a real part of the city- What would have happened in the mid-80s if you went up to someone anywhere in the OKC metro and said "Do you know what Bricktown is?" I would even go as far as saying it wasn't until the canal was completed in the late 90s that Bricktown started to become THE place to be in OKC. It was still hard at that time for businesses to turn profits. It's still hard, after 20 years of existence. The competition is tough, the crowds are sporadic (but less and less so with every month that goes by), and some people still think it's a hassle to get down there and park and do whatever. People told the original Bricktown investors that they were nuts; Downtown OKC was dead and the whole idea of an urban setting was dead, they believed.

So Blue Dome and all the other newly christened entertainment districts, particularly around the arena, can succeed. And I think with the arena already under construction, Tulsa's entertainment districts will grow much more quickly than Bricktown did. Although I agree that calling it the "Blue Dome District" is a little silly. I've been turned off to any neighborhood names with "district" in them... It just sounds fake.

I think the real key is having constant events going on. The biggest business to downtown is still tourism. The more conventions, sport events, and festivals you have, the better off businesses will be in an entertainment district.

[aoxamaxoa]

http://select.nytimes.com/preview/2006/12/24/realestate/1154658397850.html?8tpf&emc=tpf

Planning a New Life in the City

"You can't really compare baby boomers with previous generations," Mr. Frey said, "because boomers are forever young. They also have education levels and cultural interests that would suggest they might be more likely to find cities attractive."

"May God bless and keep you always
May your wishes all come true
May you always do for others
And let others do for you
May you build a ladder to the stars
And climb on every rung
May you stay forever young
Forever young, forever young
May you stay forever young.

May you grow up to be righteous
May you grow up to be true
May you always know the truth
And see the lights surrounding you
May you always be courageous
Stand upright and be strong
May you stay forever young
Forever young, forever young
May you stay forever young.

May your hands always be busy
May your feet always be swift
May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift
May your heart always be joyful
And may your song always be sung
May you stay forever young
Forever young, forever young
May you stay forever young."

[carltonplace]

^Not trying to kill a nice sentiment, but that Rod Stewart song makes me want to rip out my car radio and toss it out of the window.

[jdb]

quote:Originally posted by carltonplace

^Not trying to kill a nice sentiment, but..."

Yeah, and if I had a nose I'd cut it off.
jdb

[pmcalk]

quote:Originally posted by carltonplace

^Not trying to kill a nice sentiment, but that Rod Stewart song makes me want to rip out my car radio and toss it out of the window.

Carlton--I just lost (almost) all respect for you.  That's not the awful Rod Stewart song--that is BOB DYLAN!!!!  

Please, keep your over-the-hill baby boomers straight.