The President's New Plan For Iraq..!

[Rico]

No it is not "stay the course"...
This promises to be a more "than anyone ever hoped for" performance by "Dubya"...

Get your seats early.. The show begins at 9 p.m...



I was able to snag a photo of the Prez warming up early on for his show...!




[}:)]

[aoxamaxoa]

Why watch? He's a liar. Do you trust what you will hear?

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

Why watch? He's a liar. Do you trust what you will hear?

A little less than most politicians. Its pathetic isn't it? To see what he has done to our country and his own credibility in such a willful way. Never have I seen someone so secure in himself yet so obviously deficient. It may actually increase his approval ratings (Americans love the underdog ya know. Surrounding himself with smarter, more competent people was worthless as they apparently were not listened to or never stood up and confronted him with reality.

I saw Lindsay Graham and Joe Biden on MTP last Sunday and Biden is still dumbfounded as to how two bright, experienced men like Cheney and Rumsfeld made such dumb decisions. Graham didn't disagree. They both feel most cabinet members are just holding on and holding their noses till the next election.

[shadows]

I cannot understand anyone that does not appreciate the  understanding the pres' has of the gullible American people.  When they go to church on Sunday, like he does, surely they understand that we are only going to build the new Babylon that will bring peace to the world.  His intention is only to put another 22 thousand troops on the sacrificial stone altar of Abraham in the land of Ur.  Oh yea persons of little faith.  Vengeance has been satisfied for the attempt on daddy.  Listen now to the noble justification of starting again the civil wars centuries old in that land.  "Silence of the lambs".

[Chicken Little]

Un-frikkin'-believable.

From the Baltimore Sun:

quote: Better armor lacking for new troops in Iraq

WASHINGTON // The thousands of troops that President Bush is expected to order to Iraq will join the fight largely without the protection of the latest armored vehicles that withstand bomb blasts far better than the Humvees in wide use, military officers said...

[more]



The Cougar (above) and the Buffalo

//A seperate item in the Sun article:

quote: A report released yesterday by the Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress, said the IED problem came about in large measure because there were not enough U.S. troops in Iraq after the 2003 invasion to secure Saddam Hussein's ammunition caches.

In the weeks after the invasion, vast amounts of anti-personnel and anti-tank mines, artillery shells and other explosives were stolen from unguarded Iraqi arsenals.

"IEDs made from looted explosives have caused about half of all U.S. combat fatalities and casualties in Iraq and have killed hundreds of Iraqis," the GAO said.

Still paying the price for Rummy's "invasion-lite" program.

[aoxamaxoa]

You can't read this in the Tulsa World
"Teddy Kennedy gave a speech at the National Press Club yesterday about his new legislation that would require Congressional approval before troop levels can be increased. Afterward, he was asked if he would try to block the escalation with an amendment to an upcoming Iraq spending request.

"The horse will be out of the barn by the time we get there," Senator Kennedy replied. "The president makes his speech now. We're going to get the appropriation request probably the end of January, early February." He said it could take eight more weeks for Congress to act. "By that time, the troops will already be there," he said. "And then we'll be asked, are we going to deny the body armor to the young men and women over there?"

http://select.nytimes.com/2007/01/10/opinion/10dowd.html?th&emc=th

Maureen Dowd

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by Chicken Little

Un-frikkin'-believable.

From the Baltimore Sun:

quote: Better armor lacking for new troops in Iraq

WASHINGTON // The thousands of troops that President Bush is expected to order to Iraq will join the fight largely without the protection of the latest armored vehicles that withstand bomb blasts far better than the Humvees in wide use, military officers said...

[more]



The Cougar (above) and the Buffalo

//A seperate item in the Sun article:

quote: A report released yesterday by the Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress, said the IED problem came about in large measure because there were not enough U.S. troops in Iraq after the 2003 invasion to secure Saddam Hussein's ammunition caches.

In the weeks after the invasion, vast amounts of anti-personnel and anti-tank mines, artillery shells and other explosives were stolen from unguarded Iraqi arsenals.

"IEDs made from looted explosives have caused about half of all U.S. combat fatalities and casualties in Iraq and have killed hundreds of Iraqis," the GAO said.

Still paying the price for Rummy's "invasion-lite" program.

The cougar and bufflao are very nice vehicles, but Iraq would be over before the manufacturer (Force Protection, Inc) could even get a factory ready to build them. They are extremely high cost and slow-production. The U.S. has 36 on order now but those will take a great deal of time to be built.

[MichaelC]

Cougars, Buffalos and Bears aside, what did everyone think of the prez's speech last night?

The few items that stood out more than anything to me where his mention of Iran, Patriot Missiles, and that pesky second Carrier Task Force.

[rhymnrzn]

^ I think the greatest threat to national security is the lack of wisdom, altogether.  Wisdom is better than strength and weapons of war, according to Ecclesiastes.

Bush is servant of the sword of the king of Babylon, rather than of the word of the Lord (which is the righteous sword).  But, as the prophet Ezekiel said, "appoint thee two ways, that the sword of the king of Babylon may come: both twain shall come forth of one land......"

Bush should opt for the brotherly covenant which extends to all quarters, rather than rack up more blood of the slain to the account of the hypocrites.

[Hometown]

quote:Originally posted by MichaelC

Cougars, Buffalos and Bears aside, what did everyone think of the prez's speech last night?

The few items that stood out more than anything to me where his mention of Iran, Patriot Missiles, and that pesky second Carrier Task Force.

Chicken Little's "Un-frikkin'-believable" is on target.  That was my response to Junior's first convention and it's gone downhill from there.  We assume the U.S. is invincible but I really think Bush has taken us to the brink.  These are dangerous times for us thanks to Junior.

You saw the clip of Daddy Bush sobbing and breaking up at Jeb's goodbye party.  I know why Dad was crying and it didn't have anything to do with Jeb.

Anyway, the speech last night was muddled and confusing.  We are even less clear on our mission today than yesterday.

[MichaelC]

I don't think antagonizing the hell out of Iran with Carriers, Patriot Missiles, and rhetoric is a good strategy.  If we're destined to have 30+ years without level-headed diplomatic ties to Iran, I'd prefer to just ignore them rather than to keep them PO'd.

I'm doubtful, but keeping my fingers crossed that something good might come out of the "surge."  

I'm no longer rooting against this guy, better to pity the inept, and root for the underdogs.  I don't really want to see US standing in the world sink any lower, not sure how much farther it can go.

IMO, he looked shaken.  I'm not sure he believed what he said.

[rwarn17588]

You're not the only one who thought Bush looked scared, Michael C.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16568507/site/newsweek/

[MichaelC]

I just now saw this.

US raids Iran consulate after Bush warning

[Chicken Little]

[inteller]

nothing like some good ole fashion Iraqnam.