Around the Pearl

[brunoflipper]

quote:Originally posted by tim huntzinger

You urbophiles call this 'sustainable' development?  That is like calling a person in a coma 'dynamic.'

Now in order for the damn thing to work they need 'canals.'  Nope tearing down the senior center and building a butt-ugly private park was not enough.  Now they need canals.  THAT was not in the Channel 8 story was it, now?

How did dose big rocks make it across the street?

"private park" pancakes?...

"now they need canals?" you really don't have a ****ing clue as to what you are talking about... go back and look at the 6th street infill plan(from 11/05)... the planners had the canals, the other three ponds and the revitalization of the entire area from 244 to 11th and the IDL to utica in there from the get go...

[Rico]

quote:Originally posted by PRH

The street people will love swimming in the ponds.

Sounds as though you may be speaking from personal experience...?

If they "swim in the ponds" they will likely smell better..

[}:)]

[swake]

quote:Originally posted by PRH

quote:Originally posted by Rico

quote:Originally posted by PRH

The street people will love swimming in the ponds.

Sounds as though you may be speaking from personal experience...?

[}:)]

That's so sweet.......

Nope, I'm not speaking from personal experience, nor am I pond scum like you.

[Double A]

Just for the record, I think this "Elm Creek flood issue" has been pumped up into a larger problem than it really is to facilitate the building of these canals, IMO. BTW, I like the village at Central Park(or is it Centennial Park?), the detention pond, Family and Children Services, and the Central Community Center(I'm sure I'll like the murals, too). I admire and appreciate what Jamie Jamison has accomplished, he clearly is one of the good guys. I still remain skeptical, however, about these canals and the construction of new affordable housing in the Pearl District.

[swake]

quote:Originally posted by Double A

I still remain skeptical, however, about these canals and the construction of new affordable housing in the Pearl District.

Exactly since when does this city lack in "affordable housing", talk about a problem that does not exist.

[Rico]

quote:Originally posted by swake

quote:Originally posted by Double A

I still remain skeptical, however, about these canals and the construction of new affordable housing in the Pearl District.

Exactly since when does this city lack in "affordable housing", talk about a problem that does not exist.

In the context of this conversation... Could one define what we are referring to as "affordable housing"...

Affordable for purchase..? or the ilk of ghastly rental property..?

Or are we looking at the somewhat larger picture of making property ownership achievable so residents have a vested interest in the success of the "Pearl District"...

[Rico]

quote:Originally posted by PRH

The Village at Central Park has the ugliest tenements I've ever seen in Tulsa.  I think in 20 years it will look like a bad neighborhood in a decaying city core.  That's just my opinion.  You can always hope against all hope that I'm wrong.

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[tim huntzinger]

Hideous lines.  Boxey as a Chrysler K car.

Yeah, BF, a private park.  That was the whole idea was to enhance the value of the Village and take care of a drainage problem.  I know what I am talking about, alright.  What should have been a drainage basin turned into a monstrous hazard.

I spent seven years working with the homeless mentally ill downtown.  No urbophobe, here.

[brunoflipper]

quote:Originally posted by tim huntzinger



Yeah, BF, a private park.  That was the whole idea was to enhance the value of the Village and take care of a drainage problem.  I know what I am talking about, alright.  What should have been a drainage basin turned into a monstrous hazard.

BULL****... You can throw that against the wall all you want, it won't stick...

it is no more of a private park than zink...

the park and the new senior center were part of the comprehensive plan to revitalize that entire neighborhood and you know it...

that park was not some pork barrel project for Jamie...

get off your ****ing high horse...

[brunoflipper]

quote:Originally posted by Double A

Just for the record, I think this "Elm Creek flood issue" has been pumped up into a larger problem than it really is to facilitate the building of these canals, IMO. BTW, I like the village at Central Park(or is it Centennial Park?), the detention pond, Family and Children Services, and the Central Community Center(I'm sure I'll like the murals, too). I admire and appreciate what Jamie Jamison has accomplished, he clearly is one of the good guys. I still remain skeptical, however, about these canals and the construction of new affordable housing in the Pearl District.

the elm creek flooding was/is a very legitimate concern... just ask the property owners on 6th if the building has ever flooded (just don't ask k)...

[PRH]

quote:Originally posted by Rico

quote:Originally posted by PRH

The Village at Central Park has the ugliest tenements I've ever seen in Tulsa.  I think in 20 years it will look like a bad neighborhood in a decaying city core.  That's just my opinion.  You can always hope against all hope that I'm wrong.

A picture speaks a thousand words.....!














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I notice the ugly tenement buildings are way back in the background of the photographs.  I think that makes my point.

The rock-lined retention ponds will be a great place for snakes, though.

[Chicken Little]

quote:Originally posted by PRH

The rock-lined retention ponds will be a great place for snakes, though.

...and, horney toads, skinks, and the mammals that eat them.  Fish and birds, too.  Are you scared of nature in general, or just snakes?

[tim huntzinger]

UR right, BF, it is not about JJ.  Clearly there are a group of 'stakeholders' that have a full-time lobbyist with the City.  That group has a vested interest in securing pork for their projects to the exclusion of other developments.

[Chicken Little]

quote:Originally posted by tim huntzinger

UR right, BF, it is not about JJ.  Clearly there are a group of 'stakeholders' that have a full-time lobbyist with the City.  That group has a vested interest in securing pork for their projects to the exclusion of other developments.

What other developments?  Where do you live?  Is that what this is about?  Maybe if you shared your own agenda, you could find some neighbors to help you, too.

[tim huntzinger]

Brookside and my district is doing just fine, thankee.

There is not an unlimited amount of TIF's, CDBG's, or tax outlays available for all the projects 'necessary' to create the Disneyesque dreamworld urbophiles require.

I have always dug those brick buildings and thought the hood there has a lot of potential.  Those poverty-stricken residents demand a canal? HAx4!!

I will surely get off my high horse sometime but right now it is too fun giving ya'll a hard time about it all.