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Started by Conan71, February 12, 2007, 10:55:58 AM

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Conan71

Feel like you are being duped yet?

Are any of you who thought Democratic control of congress would really bring an end to the war pissed off yet?

What is the purpose of non-binding resolutions other than to be able to say in the '08 elections: "I voted against the war in Iraq"?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070212/ap_on_go_co/us_iraq_7

Just another waste of time when they could be spending more time on substantive issues like immigration, reducing spending, or actually coming up with a binding resolution.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

iplaw

It's a joke.  Democrats want to have their cake and eat it too.  None of the current candidates wants to do anything substantive as it would surely be used against them in a campaign.

If the troop surge turns out to be a success and they take a stance opposing funding or a surge it will destroy any hopes they may have in '08.

As far as the "anti-war" crew goes, a few of these idiots who got reelected standing arm-in-arm with Cindy Sheehan now want nothing to do with her, and I can assure you that they are public enemy #1 now instead of W.  They promised things that they aren't delivering to the "W lied" crowd and they are a very vocal and parasitic special interest group.  Thanks for taking them off our hands!

Just more of the same, politicians doing what they do best...attempting to get elected/reelected.

aoxamaxoa

What clownish bs from the far right.

"If the troop surge turns out to be a success "

It won't. That's a big if with billions at stake and too many lives in the balance.

"Just another waste of time when they could be spending more time on substantive issues like immigration, reducing spending, or actually coming up with a binding resolution."

I agree up to a point. The repugs are keeping any resolution from binding. How do you reduce spending when those in charge of the executive branch want to spend 10 billion a month on an unwinnable war just to save face?


Anyway, the congress will have a much bigger confrontation soon....

"Number One Job For Congress: Stop Iran War"

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_rob_kall_070210_number_one_job_for_c.htm

"There they go again.
Bush and company are using the same tactics to drum up war with Iran-- lying about their intentions, using unethical, partisan reporters to raise the stakes with claims of Iranian abuses and dangers to America and American interests."

rwarn17588

Conan, you must be directing that message at more delusional people, like altsuffers. [}:)]

It's presumptuous to think that a switch from narrowly leading Republican majority to a narrowly leading Democratic majority would effect big-time changes. The margin is too small.

But it's only February. The debate about Iraq is going to be ongoing, very likely will intensify and probably will go bipartisan, whether Bush likes it or not.

I don't think the surge is going to do anything substantial. It's too late for remedies that should have been performed a long time ago (like firing Rumsfeld). But I hope I'm wrong.

shadows

The Bear of the North that we have considered in hibernation has began to stir and awaken.  They are furnishing Iran ground-to-air missiles according to reports.  It could under their new leadership be to let Iraq test their efficiency.  These maybe making their way into Iraq as downing our aircraft has become an increasing threat.   The Bear, being an expert in the space age, is converting domestic industries into the preparing for military productions.   The Cuban incident of the missiles of October was a tradeoff not a win win situation for us.

The third and last war as predicted by the Christians seems to be at hand.  The days of the Gentile may be passing.  The conquers of all the great empires has reached their defeat when their supply lines were overextended.  The Bear of the North suggest they are equipped to cut the invaiders supply lines with their star wars.

We should make the congress again a part-time job and enforce it,  as was the intent at the beginning of forming our government of the people.  Our purpose should be converted to securing our own life spans and secure our borders,  Make none except trade agreement with the world.   And get-to-hell out of inferring in anyway in the politics of the mid-east, like the Romans did England.  
Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

aoxamaxoa

^watch that biblical slant. The neo cons here will eat you up and spit you out.....

rwarn17588

What if the rapture came and nothing happened?

aoxamaxoa

It would be like a tree falling in the forest.....

"The Bible's blind
The Torah's deaf
The Koran is mute
If you burned them all together
You'd get close to the truth "
unknown

iplaw

I still don't think English is your first language.  I'm only going to respond to the parts I can actuall read.


quote:
The Bear of the North that we have considered in hibernation has began to stir and awaken.  They are furnishing Iran ground-to-air missiles according to reports.  It could under their new leadership be to let Iraq test their efficiency.  These maybe making their way into Iraq as downing our aircraft has become an increasing threat.   The Bear, being an expert in the space age, is converting domestic industries into the preparing for military productions.   The Cuban incident of the missiles of October was a tradeoff not a win win situation for us.


I think stating that Russia is a space age expert is a bit of a stretch...how was Cuban Crisis not a win for the US?


quote:
The third and last war as predicted by the Christians seems to be at hand.  The days of the Gentile may be passing.  The conquers of all the great empires have reached their defeat when their supply lines were overextended.  The Bear of the North suggest they are equipped to cut the invaiders supply lines with their star wars.

You watch too much Jack Van Impe...people have been predicting the end of times since the beginning of times.

Conan71

What was Jack Nicholson's line from "As Good As It Gets"?

Something like: "People who speak in metaphors can shampoo my crotch."

Experts in the space age?

FWIW, the Russians are still far behind the U.S. when it comes to technology.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

aoxamaxoa

"Iraqi Insurgents Offer Peace for U.S. Concessions"

http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/47857/?comments=view&cID=532489&pID=529229#c532489

"For the first time, one of Iraq's principal insurgent groups has set out the terms of a ceasefire that would allow American and British forces to leave the country they invaded almost four years ago."

Let's see you neo cons stretch an eventual cease fire as the result of "surge" talk.

It's an open invitation to the
US to save face.....

iplaw

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

What was Jack Nicholson's line from "As Good As It Gets"?

Something like: "People who speak in metaphors can shampoo my crotch."

Experts in the space age?

FWIW, the Russians are still far behind the U.S. when it comes to technology.


That made my day...[}:)]

RecycleMichael

War Vote?

I vote no.

I won't even play tug of war...

Now, tug of peace...
Power is nothing till you use it.

iplaw

While I can appreciate your Ghandi-like stance RM, I'm glad you weren't running things in during WWII...  I'll take Chamberlain for 50...

aoxamaxoa

^war monger.....KILL KILL KILL!!!!!