Riot Memorial

[aoxamaxoa]

I am surprised at the lack in number of comments about a riot memorial. Is Sully just pandering to the Black vote? Is this a TulsaWorld directive?

And for all the backers of downtown rejuvenation, what do you think?

http://www.tulsaworld.com/NewsStory.asp?ID=070215_Ne_A1_Sulli60493

It's way past over due....

[swake]

quote:Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

I am surprised at the lack in number of comments about a riot memorial. Is Sully just pandering to the Black vote? Is this a TulsaWorld directive?

And for all the backers of downtown rejuvenation, what do you think?

http://www.tulsaworld.com/NewsStory.asp?ID=070215_Ne_A1_Sulli60493

It's way past over due....

I think this is the perfect solution, Conservative Republican (shockingly) authors a measure that will easily gain black and liberal backers to create a memorial site that Tulsa can be proud of that will respectfully honor the worst episode of Tulsa's history while also honoring one of the city's greatest citizens who was a victim and survivor of those ugly days.

I think this is good news and way past due.

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[aoxamaxoa]

This memorial will help heal the hatred and intolerance exhibited by many in this part of the country....

[waterboy]

Good idea by Sullivan. It was bound to happen for him eventually.

[Renaissance]

This memorial has been so long in coming not only because of ignorance regarding the extent of the riot, but also because Greenwood residents who were affected by the destruction, and their descendants, were pushing for reparations.  The fear was that a Riot Memorial would finally close the book and end any possibility of reparations from the city, state, or federal government.  Apparently the Greenwood community realized reparations weren't happening, and so they've engaged Sullivan and are moving forward.

This is a great thing for near North Tulsa.

[deinstein]

I think it's a fantastic idea and it impresses me Sullivan (A person I typically disagree with on everything) is pushing for it. Kudos.

[perspicuity85]

This issue surpasses any political party differences.  This is an ethical issue.  The victims of the race riot deserve to be remembered.  It's time for Tulsa, and the United States, to recognize this terrible tradgedy.  It's nice to see Sullivan uplifting this cause.

[cannon_fodder]

Wow, while I knew 'of' the Tulsa Race Riot I assumed in my ignorance that it was the same circumstances as many more modern race riots.  That is to say, upset with the status quo a minority group burns down their own neighborhood (a la Waterloo Iowa, Detroit, LA...).  Clearly cases were possibly justifiable outrage was used as an excuse by other members of the community for misguided acts.

I had no idea what the whole story was behind the Tulsa Race Riot.  For those of you who share my ignorance, Wikipedia seems to have a pretty good account:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_Race_Riot[b/]  
(one section disputed, but the gist of it seems to be in harmony with other sources).

Prior to knowing what I was talking about, I would have been flatly against any reparations.  Now, I think I would certainly consider proposals to compensate actual victims... but seeing as it is probably too late for most of them or too hard to prove it, a plan to help the greenwood community or build a memorial as a public apology seems appropriate and long over due.

[rwarn17588]

The Tulsa Race Riot Report can be downloaded as a pdf from this site:

http://www.ok-history.mus.ok.us/trrc/freport.htm

But be warned: It's a humongous file.

The report I found to be quite illuminating. It has a full history of the riot and effectively debunks some of the urban legends (that the Greenwood neighborhood also was bombed from planes).

I also agree with Sullivan on this move. I'm not sure why it took so long by anybody, though.

[Chris]

I fully support this memorial. I hope it gets the attention it deserves.

[Porky]

I'd rather see a Trail of Tears memorial/museum built. Every time I hear that race riot museum brought up, it reminds me of the Whiners on Saturday Night Live.

[swake]

quote:Originally posted by Porky

I'd rather see a Trail of Tears memorial/museum built. Every time I hear that race riot museum brought up, it reminds me of the Whiners on Saturday Night Live.

Why does it do that?

[Porky]

quote:Originally posted by swake

quote:Originally posted by Porky

I'd rather see a Trail of Tears memorial/museum built. Every time I hear that race riot museum brought up, it reminds me of the Whiners on Saturday Night Live.

Why does it do that?

If the black community wants it so bad let them build it themselves. They obviously have the resources to do so but instead of doing that they just whine on and on about it.

Mean while the Cherokees are getting ready to build a culture center with their own money and Tulsa has a good chance of getting it located here.

[swake]

quote:Originally posted by Porky

quote:Originally posted by swake

quote:Originally posted by Porky

I'd rather see a Trail of Tears memorial/museum built. Every time I hear that race riot museum brought up, it reminds me of the Whiners on Saturday Night Live.

Why does it do that?

If the black community wants it so bad let them build it themselves. They obviously have the resources to do so but instead of doing that they just whine on and on about it.

Mean while the Cherokees are getting ready to build a culture center with their own money and Tulsa has a good chance of getting it located here.

Whine about having the white side of town come and burn the black section killing maybe hundreds in the process? And the city police/government were at least criminally negligent in doing nothing trying to stop the riot and may well have been active and willing participants?

You either don't understand what this riot was or you are a complete racist.

[Porky]

quote:Originally posted by swake


Whine about having the white side of town come and burn the black section killing maybe hundreds in the process? And the city police/government were at least criminally negligent in doing nothing trying to stop the riot and may well have been active and willing participants?

You either don't understand what this riot was or you are a complete racist.

I understand well what it was about and I'm sorry it happened.

But there will always be people like you Swake that will enjoy name calling when you wouldn't give a dime yourself. Or am I wrong Swake? Have you donated money already for this or have you offered any form of labor or etc in getting this built? Or are you one that just sits back and whines on and on about this place not getting built?