Gay practice on television -> gay pride

[Steve]

quote:A series on Sunday television called, "Brothers and Sisters" has as one of the characters, a brother, a gay person. That is all well and good, but two times in the last two weeks we unexpectedly were shown two grown men passionately kissing. This absolutely grosses us out. Any comments pro or con.

The kissing event a few weeks ago was dismissed by us as rather non-problematical, but now after the second time it looks like yet another program to take off our favorites list.

Be my guest and take it off your list; you always have the option to turn off the TV or change channels.

As a gay man, I am not fond of watching a man and a woman trying to swallow each other's tongues either.  That pretty much "grosses me out" too.  I am not a fan of gratuitous sex scenes period, regardless of the gender of the participants.  99% of TV today is indeed a "vast wasteland."

[SoonerRiceGrad]

quote:Originally posted by Porky

I don't mind seeing lesbians kissing but when the guys start I have to turn the channel.

Which brings up a thought......do homosexuals like seeing straight people kissing on TV?

Of their sex. Duh....

[Porky]

quote:Originally posted by SoonerRiceGrad

quote:Originally posted by Porky

I don't mind seeing lesbians kissing but when the guys start I have to turn the channel.

Which brings up a thought......do homosexuals like seeing straight people kissing on TV?

Of their sex. Duh....

Whatever...[^]

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[Steve]

quote:Originally posted by Porky

I don't mind seeing lesbians kissing but when the guys start I have to turn the channel.

Which brings up a thought......do homosexuals like seeing straight people kissing on TV?

Not really, but after 50+ years of straight kissing on TV, we are pretty much used to it.  The first instance I remember of a girl/girl kiss on TV was that infamous episode of Roseanne circa 1994 or so, where Mariel Hemmingway kissed Roseanne Barr in the club.  

Why do heterosexual men think lesbian kissing/sex is so hot?  Do straight women get off on two hunky, body-builder type men having gay sex?  I would guess no.  I think the only possible explanation is that males are so turned on by visual depictions of sex, in other words, men are pigs, and one woman is good, 2+ women is hot damn!

[Double A]

Yawn, I'm changing the channel.

[AMP]

Thought they were actors acting in a scene.  It is not a real kiss to begin with, is it? Or is it really real? Is it Real or is it Memorex?

You may actually be aroused by watching and are just lying to each other that it disgusts you to cover up. LOL

Oh I forgot we are in the Bible Belt where anything other than what the Religious Right dictates must be wrong.

Sounds more like you may have fallen victim to the Religious Right's brain washing techniques.

Did you never experiment with sex as a boy with your friends?  Guess that is like the "Officer I only had one Beer" story.  

Or the.. there are two types of people, liars and those that admit they masterbate.

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I prescribe a night out Bar Hopping to some of Tulsa's and Oklahoma Cities Gay Bars. Take in a Drag Show as well.  Be sure to attend the Gay Pride Parade on Cherry Street.  All will do you and your spouse a world of good to get out and be festive and have some fun, rather than sitting at home watching other people's lives unfold on TV.

Never know who you may run into down at Veterans Park on Riverside during the Gay Pride event.    

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"Most people I know are Tri-Sexuals, they try most anything."  

"The worst Sex I have ever had I described as Marvelous"

[AMP]

While I am not an advocate of public display of affection, I can understand a scene in a work of art or media that depicts such an act.  

Picture is worth a thousand words or perhaps even more as it seems with your reaction.

It has to be better than watching expolsions, death destruction and war on TV does it not?  

May not want to have children if you are opposed to gay sex.  One or more of them may be born Gay, or grow up to be gay if that is what you believe.  Either way, it would be a tragedy for a parent to be disgusted at their own child for kissing another of the same sex.  

http://www.gayly.com/thegallery.asp

A few photos of the Tulsa Gay Pride festivities at the park over the past few years.

The entire event is one of Tulsa's better events and attractions of the year. If you have not atteneded the Parade or festival following in the park, I suggest you take a bicycle ride or a walk around and enjoy the entertainment.  

Montrose area in Houston, Texas hosts one of the better celebrations in this region.  Houston has their own Gay Business Yellow Page Book there.  Very large community in Houson as well as other places in the US.

http://gayellowpages.com/

http://www.tohr.org/tulsapride2006.html

"Hate is not a family value"

Here are a few Kissing Scenes ... Warning do not view if you are emotionally effected by same sex kissing.  LOL

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=boys+kissing
Boys Kissing

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=girls+kissing+
Girls Kissing

[Porky]

quote:Originally posted by Steve


Not really, but after 50+ years of straight kissing on TV, we are pretty much used to it.  The first instance I remember of a girl/girl kiss on TV was that infamous episode of Roseanne circa 1994 or so, where Mariel Hemmingway kissed Roseanne Barr in the club.  

Why do heterosexual men think lesbian kissing/sex is so hot?  Do straight women get off on two hunky, body-builder type men having gay sex?  I would guess no.  I think the only possible explanation is that males are so turned on by visual depictions of sex, in other words, men are pigs, and one woman is good, 2+ women is hot damn!

btw Steve, I wasn't gay bashing with my remark.

My point is we are who we are, or born as. I can't explain why some people find somethings offensive and others don't.

What I do believe is our creator wants us to be as how he created us. If one is born gay, they need to be accepted and if one is born straight, they too need accepted as well.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by Steve

I think the only possible explanation is that males are so turned on by visual depictions of sex, in other words, men are pigs, and one woman is good, 2+ women is hot damn!

That, plus men like naked women.

[iplaw]

O/T...

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Be sure to attend the Gay Pride Parade on Cherry Street.

My wife and I were shopping at the Farmer's Market one Saturday morning when this debacle was going on.  Parades like these have become nothing more than cliche events and only help reinforce negative stereotypes of gays.  

I am as "live and let live" as anyone could be, and I could care less what side of the plate you swing from.  But speaking from a purely common sense standpoint...what do people hope to gain from dancing in their underwear in the streets in an sexually overtoned parade?  Of course, not everyone was behaving in this manner, but there were enough who were.  Is the purpose to shock and offend, or is it to help people understand that gay people are regular folks just like the straight people they work and live next to?  If you're hoping to engender compassion and understanding from the straight community I don't think this is the way to go about it.

[Double A]

I bet the shop owners along the parade route who experience more sales during this event would tend to disagree. This parade has been very good for the businesses along Cherry Street.

[iplaw]

quote:
I bet the shop owners along the parade route who experience more sales during this event would tend to disagree. This parade has been very good for the businesses along Cherry Street.

I don't see how that comment addresses my point at all...it's not a discussion of how much money they generate, it's about the image proffered.  I'm sure the goal of the gay pride parade is not to make money for businesses on Cherry Street, though the businesses are happy to take it.  

Is it okay that they're defeating the purpose of why the gay pride parades were held in the first place....just as long as they make money?

[okiebybirth]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

O/T...

quote:
Be sure to attend the Gay Pride Parade on Cherry Street.

My wife and I were shopping at the Farmer's Market one Saturday morning when this debacle was going on.  Parades like these have become nothing more than cliche events and only help reinforce negative stereotypes of gays.  

I am as "live and let live" as anyone could be, and I could care less what side of the plate you swing from.  But speaking from a purely common sense standpoint...what do people hope to gain from dancing in their underwear in the streets in an sexually overtoned parade?  Of course, not everyone was behaving in this manner, but there were enough who were.  Is the purpose to shock and offend, or is it to help people understand that gay people are regular folks just like the straight people they work and live next to?  If you're hoping to engender compassion and understanding from the straight community I don't think this is the way to go about it.

Men dancing in their underwear at the Tulsa Pride Parade?  When did that happen?  How did I miss that part???  And while we are on the subject, I think we need to question these Mardi Gras parades;  Their are only so many women's breasts I can see before I lose my compassion and understanding for the straight community. []

[Double A]

Money talks, bullsh#*t walks. You bore me. Next you'll be complaining about Octoberfest because of the image a beer festival portrays.

[iplaw]

It was either two, or three years ago, I can't recall with 100% certainty and it was by no means a large percentage, but those in charge should understand the impact of a few bad apples...as for Mardi Gras, I wouldn't have my kids there, and it's not being held to raise awareness for a particular cause...maybe alcoholism.[]

I just feel that it's important to keep in mind the real goal of getting your message out as a group.  

If the Oklahoma Beef Council held a parade to justify their industry to vegetarians, would it help to slaughter one during the parade?  IOW, don't take the most radical element/idea in your group and throw it in the face of those people that you're trying to reach.

It's all about the presentation...anyways there are more valuable things to do with your time than have parades, they're like awards shows now.  Build a house for habitat...serve food at the homeless shelter.  We can all do things together that benefit the community and have aboslutely NOTHING to do with anyone's sexual orientation.  Out of common interests people will overcome stigmas...direct conflict usually polarizes.