Gay practice on television -> gay pride

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

Well, since you are so obviously animated by this discussion, what other conclusion would I draw?

Open mouth, insert foot.

You could actually employ some critical reading and thinking skills and abstain from drive-by flaming before you draw such myopic conclusions, but that's what we know you best for...your becoming as big of a sniper as Aox.

I get animated when people unfairly categorize others as anti-gay when nothing said so far supports that assertion.

[rwarn17588]

Please. Look in the mirror. I'm not the one who's been chided on this board for personal attacks.

[MichaelC]

Don't cop out now.  You're making the assumption that they want to force tolerance on you, while simultaneously admitting that forcing tolerance is impossible.  

They don't care whether you are tolerant or not.  Not everyone is, they know that.

Some aren't going to like it.  Too bad.  Cry, complain, do what you have to.  No one is telling you that you personally have to deal with it.

[PonderInc]

Every time I walk at the park, I see straight people "passionately kissing."  Of course I don't care what they do in the privacy of their own homes--I'm not a heterophobe by any means--but...boy does this gross me out! [] It seems like ever since that movie "Gone with the Wind" came out, this behavior has been everywhere I look!

That's the problem with this world: Too much love!

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

Please. Look in the mirror. I'm not the one who's been chided on this board for personal attacks.

Altruismsuffers doesn't count.  Even you know that...

What was previously an interesting discussion has now devolved into a flamewar since MichaelC and Rwarn showed up...

[iplaw]

quote:Don't cop out now.  You're making the assumption that they want to force tolerance on you, while simultaneously admitting that forcing tolerance is impossible.  

Please quote me what I said that backs this up.  Nowhere did I make this assertion, you're getting desperate.

[rwarn17588]

I think MichaelC's got you, man.

But let's call a truce ... let's kiss and make up. I'll warn citizen72 and porky if they don't want to watch.

[}:)]

[iplaw]

quote:
I think MichaelC's got you, man.

Please.  He's so far off base he's in another discussion entirely.  Though it is easy to win an argument that no one but you is having.  Only if it were just that easy, I could attribute anything to you that you didn't say and then argue about it and call myself the victor...

[MichaelC]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

I think MichaelC's got you, man.

But let's call a truce ... let's kiss and make up. I'll warn citizen72 and porky if they don't want to watch.

[}:)]

Indeed.  I've said all I need to say on this thread I'm sure.  Let the trolls return to speak on that which they have plenty of assumptions, and no direct or indirect knowledge.  Homophobia is so simple.

Exit, stage left.

[iplaw]

I'm still waiting for you to repost my comments where I said the gay community was trying to force tolerance.

It's easy just to make things up and shadow box, it's quite another to backup your assertions with evidence and argue specifics.  You sir are the troll...dodge and weave, then call your opponent a homophobe.  I could have outlined your strategy from the outset.

[MichaelC]

Go ahead and wait iplaw.  It'll give those scary gay people more time to convert you.

A Jehovah's Witness walks down the street, a Christmas Parade breaks out.  Should said Witness...

A) Complain about it on a forum.
B) Hide, and swear up and down he was never there.
C) Start celebrating Christmas.
D) Get over it.

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by MichaelC

Go ahead and wait iplaw.  It'll give those scary gay people more time to convert you.

More of the same.  You made assertions you're unwilling or unable to backup yet you keep posting more nonsense.  I have every right to participate in this discussion, even though you are obstructing any meaningful discussion.


I thought you exited stage left?

[okiebybirth]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:
As far as working for the respect of the community at large: Where would the civil rights movement be without forced integration of the school system? If the NAACP had waited for acceptance, they'd still be waiting today. It had to be forced upon the community at large and let them see that it wasn't the end of the world.

Whoa!  That opens up another can of worms I'm definitely not discussing here.  I will say from what I have read, most African Americans are offended at the comparison, but discussing race and sexual orientation in the same thread is just asking for trouble. [/sneaks away]

I'd agree that SOME African Americans find it offensive to compare the two.  But who are the supposed leaders of African Americans?  Preachers.  Just because you have a segment that doesn't want to compare the two, doesn't make it a bad analogy.

[okiebybirth]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

While I agree that the start of a movement is necessarily radical, I would strongly argue that Dr. King did more for civil rights than the Nation of Islam and the Black Panther's combined.

Not that the parallel is perfect, but you get it.

Dr. King wasn't for waiting for civil rights.. you have that wrong.  No one in the gay rights movement is advocating violence like the Nation of Islam or the Black Panthers.

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by okiebybirth

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:
As far as working for the respect of the community at large: Where would the civil rights movement be without forced integration of the school system? If the NAACP had waited for acceptance, they'd still be waiting today. It had to be forced upon the community at large and let them see that it wasn't the end of the world.

Whoa!  That opens up another can of worms I'm definitely not discussing here.  I will say from what I have read, most African Americans are offended at the comparison, but discussing race and sexual orientation in the same thread is just asking for trouble. [/sneaks away]

I'd agree that SOME African Americans find it offensive to compare the two.  But who are the supposed leaders of African Americans?  Preachers.  Just because you have a segment that doesn't want to compare the two, doesn't make it a bad analogy.

Nor does it make it a good one, but I'm not having this discussion remember?[]