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[altruismsuffers]

9/11 was the defining moment of the 21st century.  BBC has recently released new footage in which WTC 7 is reported to have collapsed 26 minutes before it actually fell.  Building 7 is the most controversial piece of the 9/11 puzzle because no plane ever hit this building and yet it fell without explanation at 5:20 PM on 9/11/01.  Many Americans do not even recall building 7 because of the media black out on this event.  Not only was WTC 7 blackballed from any major news coverage immediately after 9/11 it was also completely without mention in the 911 Commission Report.  This building is only the 3rd steel and concrete skyscraper to fall from fire in history, the first two are the Twin Towers.  Other buildings have had raging fires for up to 18 hours with no sign of collapse.  Larry Silverstein who just purchased the Twin Towers and took out an insurance policy specifically covering acts of terrorism said "maybe the smartest thing to do is, is pull it.' Uh, and they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."  Not only did Larry Silverstein say "Pull it" but many of the ground zero rescue workers that day recall warnings that the building was to be "brought down".  This building which held the Secret Service, the Department of Defense, the Immigration and Naturalization Service, the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), the Mayor's Office of Emergency Management, the Internal Revenue Service Regional Council (IRS), and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) was overbuilt to protect these important agencies, to claim the building fell from fire is absurd.  The Solomon building (WTC 7) was also the furthest building from the Twin towers.  Why didn't WTC buildings 4, 5, or 6 fall when they had debris land directly on top of them?  These buildings also had raging fires but did not collapse.

If you are an intelligent human being you can see that we are being decieved.  What is their motive and why won't they tell us the truth?  Wake up America because Tryranny is at your doorstep.


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[Rico]

Oye.... Vato... You talkin to me..?

[Conan71]

If you were an intelligent human being, you would see YOU are being fed with crap.

[rwarn17588]

Iplaw not being here still doesn't change the fact that these "facts" and conspiracy theories are pitifully wrong-headed.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

Iplaw not being here still doesn't change the fact that these "facts" and conspiracy theories are pitifully wrong-headed.

"wrong-headed"?  I was thinking of another word before "headed" that sounds a little like Schlitz.

[altruismsuffers]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

Iplaw not being here still doesn't change the fact that these "facts" and conspiracy theories are pitifully wrong-headed.

Now I remember why I quit posting on here its like talking to a bunch of kindergarten kids.

It does not raise any questions when TWO different agencies predict the future?  Obviously they did not predict the future but were told what was going to happen.  FEMA claims that WTC 7 fell unexpectedly from fire yet the BBC and CNN knew in advance and you don't find that intrigueing?  What might I ask do you find intersting? The lint in your belly button?  Get a grip on reality and look at the FACTS that contradict the official story that are blatently in front of you.

[rwarn17588]

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[Cubs]

http://www.brainsource.com/brain_on_drugs.htm

Which one(s) are you on?

[tim huntzinger]

quote:Originally posted by altruismsuffers
Now I remember why I quit posting on here its like talking to a bunch of kindergarten kids.

This topic, while intriguing, does not have anything to do with Tulsa's downtown political climate.  Inasmuch as the allegations are enflaming, do not blame others for disputing them.

[Conan71]

Alt, you are really, really slow on the uptake.  You obviously don't have an audience here on your conspiracy clap-trap, so why do you keep trying?

So even if your far-fetched ideas were reality, what are you going to do about it?  You are obsessed with something which happened almost 5 1/2 years ago.  That just ain't normal.

If you care to engage in intelligent political banter, please be a regular contributor.  Otherwise, go peddle your sh!t somewhere else.

[altruismsuffers]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

Alt, you are really, really slow on the uptake.  You obviously don't have an audience here on your conspiracy clap-trap, so why do you keep trying?

So even if your far-fetched ideas were reality, what are you going to do about it?  You are obsessed with something which happened almost 5 1/2 years ago.  That just ain't normal.

If you care to engage in intelligent political banter, please be a regular contributor.  Otherwise, go peddle your sh!t somewhere else.

I keep trying because this is a reality even though most Americans are not open minded enough to pay it attention.  Why do I obsess about something that happened 5 years ago?  Well tell me why do we have the patriot act, homeland security, the war in Afghanistan, the war in Iraq, the military commissions act and soon the war with Iran?  Without 9/11 none of this would have been possible.  The government says they attacked us because they hate our freedoms yet our own government is legislating our freedoms away as a result, does that make any sense?  Tim this topic does have to do with Tulsa because TulsaTruth.org is the fastest growing progressive group for positive change in all of Tulsa.  It is worth paying attention to because we have 3 FREE movie showings every month.  One at Martin Regional library, one at Hardesty Library, and one at Circle Cinema.  We are also bringing the head of the Star Wars program to speak about bringing together America to stop this fascist regime.  Don't tell me this doesn't have anything to do with Tulsa.

[tim huntzinger]

I lurked around during the first go at this and I am not sure there is anywhere to go with these ideas.  I do not think that there is anything progressive about the crux of the conspiracy claims, yet nothing un-American about an overriding distrust of government.

[rwarn17588]

<alt wrote:

I keep trying because this is a reality even though most Americans are not open minded enough to pay it attention.

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No, this is fantasy, and most Americans are smart enough to discern B.S. when they see it.

Then there are the gullible, of which you are a member.

[altruismsuffers]

Its amazing how nobody has addressed any of the ISSUES that I raise.  Instead every single one have you have attacked ME personally for even bringing up the subject.  Why don't you try and explain how the BBC predicted that world trade center 7 was going to fall?  Why don't ANY of you try to address the ISSUE?  Please someone explain to me how the BBC read a script from the future and reported that the building has fell when it stands CLEARLY in tact behind her.  Someone with HALF A BRAIN try and answer this question.

[tim huntzinger]

'A lie can make it around the world twice while the truth is still putting its boots on.' Mark Twain

DEBUNKING911.com seems to reply to your allegations.  Silverstein was referring to the first responder team; the building did not have a 'few' fires but was fully engaged; the building had signficant damage on the south face; tower debris fell over six and hit seven.  Following the collapse of the towers and seeing the damage on seven made it fairly obvious a collapse was imminent.

Dennis Hopsticker with Madcow Morning News has a lot of interesting stuff about 911-related conspiracies, but taking more of a drug-smuggling angle.