Obama fundraiser at George Kaiser's home?

[Double A]

Real wages have actually declined in Mexico under NAFTA.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by Double A

Real wages have actually declined in Mexico under NAFTA.

Yup.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by teddy jack eddy

Barack's got the charimsa of John Kennedy.  He's going to be wonderful.  I hope he wins the Presidency and has Hillary at his side as Vice-President.

We'll have Camelot all over again. I can't say enough good about Barack Obama.

Kennedy, the man who brought us Bay of Pigs and Viet Nam.  Yep, he brought us some real laughs.

Charisma is wonderful.  It takes more than charisma to make the tough decisions it takes to run the country.  Do you know where he stands on the issues and anything about his actual competence to run the country?

What do you dis-like about Richardson as a Democratic candidate?

FWIW- Hillary won't play biznitch VP to anyone.

[tim huntzinger]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71
Do you know where he stands on the issues and anything about his actual competence to run the country?
What do you dis-like about Richardson as a Democratic candidate?

FLIIIIIP FLOOOOOOP!

Things about Obama I like: he says he is not taking corporate lobbyist dollars for his campaign, he wants to bring health care to all Americans, he wants to raise the minimum wage, and best of all he is not a Republican.

[Conan71]

Good for Obama for staying away from PAC's and lobbyists.  I'd like to see more of that on both sides.  I'm tired of special interests running Washington.

I'm looking for one of you heavily partisan Democrats to tell me what's wrong with Richardson's leadership skills or do you guys prefer to vote for image over good leadership?

"Health care for all Americans" is political hyperbole, it's available for those who need it.  No matter how much you throw at health care, publicly-funded health care will never look like privately-funded.  Just like education.  The government never does anything as well or efficient as the private sector.

There would be a lot more options available for U.S. citizens if Washington would quit courting illegal aliens.

[Conan71]

Care to explain why?

Is it because Democrats will only vote for good looking people who promise they will do the exact opposite of the present leadership?

Why not take a look at someone who actually has new workable ideas instead of unrealistic ideals.

[Conan71]

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[rwarn17588]

Well, Richardson certainly isn't electable until he breaks 10 percent in the polls.

[USRufnex]

... can't wait to hear from the mindless repubs touting  Rudy Guiliani... who happens to have positions similar to those of Howard Dean on abortion and gays... to the left of Howard Dean on gun control... and Rudy's decidedly to the left of Dean, Obama, Edwards, Richardson and Hillary in the choice of a good cocktail dress...



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[rwarn17588]

Hell, I think Fred Thompson is going to run because the other GOP candidates are self-destructing. The Republicans are going to beg him to salvage the party -- if he can.

-- Giuliani (who I sorta like) is pro-choice on abortion and is OK with gay marriage. That's an automatic out for the GOP.

-- McCain keeps putting his foot in his mouth, especially spouting off how safe the streets of Bagdad are, then "proving" it by taking a stroll with 100 soldiers, two helicopters and a bulletproof vest. Yeah, I'd be safe in that scenario, too. [}:)]

-- Romney, based on his long flip-flop record, doesn't seem to have any bedrock principles. I also find it stunning that he was the top money-maker in the first quarter, yet can barely break 10 percent in the polls.

-- Huckabee, who I considered a dark horse, couldn't even raise $1 million during the quarter. He's done.

Thompson (not Tommy) will seem like a strong contender until the media start asking him hard questions about his marriages, the Iraq occupation, torture, Social Security, federal spending, corruption, the Justice Department, Hurricane Katrina, illegal immigration and last but not least President Bush. Then he'll be as weakened as the rest of them.

Then again, I'm betting GOP voters will hold their noses, vote for Giuliani, and wave off the religious right. Many GOP voters like authority figures, and he's definitely one.

[Conan71]

RW- The far right Christian conservatives are going to have to get over themselves on Rudy's abortion and gay marriage stance.  Both seem to be more state's rights issues, so if they are really concerned about it, then they need to lobby harder in state elections.  In the absence of any other qualified GOP candidates, they can plan on ceding the 2008 general to the Democrats if they don't nominate Rudy.  

Gingrich is no solution, but I guess they might think someone who can't keep his schmekel in his pants is a better alternative to someone else who can't do the same but who also favors gay marriage and pro-choice.  I do think Rudy's been pretty clever in saying he would pick more Roberts and Alito type justices to try to pass muster with the far right.

I'm hoping more centrist GOP's will mobilize to get Rudy nominated.  The only thing I don't like about Rudy is his stance on guns.  No, I don't have a large arsenal, but I do appreciate my 2nd amendment rights.

[Conan71]

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[Editor]

Topics: Barack Obama, George Kaiser and visiting Tulsa.

Posts: Little to do with above.

On topic, or out of the thread.

[Conan71]

Sorry for being O/T but what happened to Teddy Jack Eddy's posts?  Did we have dualing identities from an IP address, or was Paul Tay back?

[Editor]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

Sorry for being O/T but what happened to Teddy Jack Eddy's posts?  Did we have dualing identities from an IP address, or was Paul Tay back?

They weren't removed by staff. Likely they were removed by him, who was upset with the course the thread had taken.