Are they that greedy?

[Conan71]

"Sometimes you feel like a nice long Hummer."

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by USRufnex

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

It is, and ford has had problems with this area for years which makes them an easy target, however if a car was designed to roll over at double posted speed and leave everyone unharmed, it would weigh about 3 tons and look like a burrito.

Oh, you mean one of these...?


Hmmm... "I'd like your Hummer Limo lunch special covered in queso with beans and rice, please..." []

This post makes me want Las Americas #56 (Golden Burrito Grande) right now...

In reality, I'm not sure that thing could roll over at 25 without busting in half.

[unknown]

that is a burrito[}:)]

Los Girasoles in BA for 6.50

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by unknown




that is a burrito[}:)]

Los Girasoles in BA for 6.50

Mmm....

[deinstein]

quote: Moody lost control of a 1995 Ford Explorer Sport while he was passing another vehicle in a no-passing zone on a curve, according to a Nov. 14 court order by Eagan. The SUV left the road and rolled at least 1 1/2 times, coming to rest on its roof.  

What an idiot.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by deinstein

quote: Moody lost control of a 1995 Ford Explorer Sport while he was passing another vehicle in a no-passing zone on a curve, according to a Nov. 14 court order by Eagan. The SUV left the road and rolled at least 1 1/2 times, coming to rest on its roof.  

What an idiot.

But it's all Ford Motor Company's fault, at least according to Clark Brewster.

[cannon_fodder]

and according to Clark Brewster its ok to intimidate witnesses to get the Penis Pump judge off.  The grapevine also tells me he thinks its ok to keep a small harem of young women on the payroll for recreational purposes.  But he is good at what he does...

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

and according to Clark Brewster its ok to intimidate witnesses to get the Penis Pump judge off.  The grapevine also tells me he thinks its ok to keep a small harem of young women on the payroll for recreational purposes.  But he is good at what he does...

That was one time Judge Thompson didn't get off in court.[:O]

[jamesrage]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

I know there is a warning that lawn mowers should only be used on the ground.

Every time you read a warning, you know that at least one person has done that.

I think the condescending warnings are put one certain products so greedy lawyers and stupid idiots won't be able to sue.Everyone remembers the old lady who sued McDonalds because she thought it is was a great idea to stick a cup of hot liquid between her legs

[patric]

quote: Moody lost control of a 1995 Ford Explorer Sport while he was passing another vehicle in a no-passing zone on a curve, according to a Nov. 14 court order by Eagan. The SUV left the road and rolled at least 1 1/2 times, coming to rest on its roof.

I think people are having a tough time distinguishing between the negligence that resulted in a wreck, and the negligence that resulted in a death from what should have been a survivable wreck.

[rwarn17588]

jamesrage wrote:

Everyone remembers the old lady who sued McDonalds because she thought it is was a great idea to stick a cup of hot liquid between her legs

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It wasn't just a frivolous lawsuit. McDonald's was setting its coffee temperatures at an eye-popping 195 to 200 degrees. Combine that with the flimsy cups that couldn't take such temperatures, there were hundreds of serious burning incidents across the country because of this.

You need to find a better strawman than that.

[cannon_fodder]

No one ever seem to care about the details on that one rwarn.  3rd degree genital burns are no fun at all.

[deinstein]

quote:Originally posted by patric

quote: Moody lost control of a 1995 Ford Explorer Sport while he was passing another vehicle in a no-passing zone on a curve, according to a Nov. 14 court order by Eagan. The SUV left the road and rolled at least 1 1/2 times, coming to rest on its roof.

I think people are having a tough time distinguishing between the negligence that resulted in a wreck, and the negligence that resulted in a death from what should have been a survivable wreck.

I absolutely do have a tough time distinguishing it. There are so many analogies I could use to prove the idiocy of this lawsuit my mind is being blown right now.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by patric

quote: Moody lost control of a 1995 Ford Explorer Sport while he was passing another vehicle in a no-passing zone on a curve, according to a Nov. 14 court order by Eagan. The SUV left the road and rolled at least 1 1/2 times, coming to rest on its roof.

I think people are having a tough time distinguishing between the negligence that resulted in a wreck, and the negligence that resulted in a death from what should have been a survivable wreck.

Most vehicles which are driven at 80 mph around sharp curves are constructed with roll bars or full roll cages and aren't used on city streets.  

What is a reasonable expectation to have of auto manufacturers in regards to safety, production, and marketability?  We all want safe cars, but who is willing or able to spend the kind of money it would take to have a car which can survive 90% of all potential crash situations on a public road?  I have yet to see a hybrid car out there which doesn't look like a rolling coffin.

Who is to say what is and isn't survivable in every case?  People have survived wrecks that would have generated 40g's and others have died in less severe wrecks.

Tyler had to have known there could be potential consequences to driving that fast and he could be driving beyond the limitations of that vehicle's safe design.  At the time the wreck happened there had been plenty of publicity about SUV roll-overs.

Tyler's passenger, Brett, told me after the crash that when the Explorer started to go off the road, he remembered something his soccer coach had told his team a day or so after the coach had  been involved in a roll-over in an SUV: "If it ever happens to you, duck!"  That's what he did and he walked away with a scratch on his arm.  Tyler was fighting to save the vehicle, he really didn't have that option.

Tyler's parents certainly had the money to buy him a safer vehicle.  He had this Explorer Sport after the whole tire scare which was causing roll-overs after blow-outs on Explorers and all the Dateline NBC roll-over tests on skid pads had been re-run to death.  IOW- there was enough data and publicity out there at the time to know that SUV's are not the safest vehicle to be in when you are in a quick manuever due to the high center of gravity.

I hate it for the Moodys, they were devastated.  Tyler was a model student, a fine young man, and ostensibly a son anyone would be proud to have.  But I turn callous when they think I and all other future buyers of Ford products (that's all I've personally owned for the last 17 years) should have to shoulder the cost of Tyler's 30 second lapse of judgement.

[jamesrage]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588


It wasn't just a frivolous lawsuit. McDonald's was setting its coffee temperatures at an eye-popping 195 to 200 degrees. Combine that with the flimsy cups that couldn't take such temperatures, there were hundreds of serious burning incidents across the country because of this.

You need to find a better strawman than that.

According the national coffee association the best coffee is brewed at 195-205 degrees Fahrenheit for optimal extraction and that when the brewed coffee should be enjoyed immediately.


http://www.ncausa.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=71
Your brewer should maintain a water temperature between 195 - 205 degrees Fahrenheit for optimal extraction.  Colder water will result in flat, underextracted coffee while water that is too hot will also cause a loss of quality in the taste of the coffee.

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Brewed coffee should be enjoyed immediately!  

Pour it into a warmed mug or coffee cup so that it will maintain its temperature as long as possible. Brewed coffee begins to lose its optimal taste moments after brewing so only brew as much coffee as will be consumed immediately. If it will be a few minutes before it will be served, the temperature should be maintained at 180 - 185 degrees Fahrenheit.








In Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants case they claim the coffee was around 180-190 degrees Fahrenheit,which is what the temperature the national coffee association says is acceptable.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald's_coffee_case





Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants is one of those cases where some retard does something stupid due to their own ignorance or negligence and they expect the company to make them rich.That judge should have thrown that old lady and her rat lawyer out on their asses and slapped them with a huge fine for trying to waste tax payer time and money.Lawsuits like these only encourage more people to be idiots.Everybody and their mom knows coffee is hot,it is supposed to be hot,no one in their right mind is going to put a hot cup of liquid in between their legs because of the fact coffee is hot and hot liquids have a tendency to burn.