Ism Collision

[RecycleMichael]

Good first post Tytan.

I agree. There have been plenty of protests by both black and white on using hurtful names, but few paid attention.

Imus was the perfect scapegoat for the media to cover the story.

[Rowdy]

Imus was wrong and made a really stupid comment and black people are just as equal as whites.  Comments like "cracker" are just as racist as what Imus said.  Reverse racism is also alive and well unfortunately.  I am tired of people separating humanity by skin color.  When is enough enough?

I think it ironic that there are probably quite a few people who preach and breed hate and little do they realize that they probably have some of that race in their own blood and don't even realize it.  

[Rowdy]

We could always punish Imus and make him have this on his vehicle....

[iplaw]

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I see it as defiance in the face of enlightenment.

I'm sure you do, oh great bearer of Truth (TM)

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Whitey? Why not go the whole way. Call me cracker or honky. You are so glib, not the least bit delightful though. Don't for a moment think you can accurately judge the mindset of a minority just because you have some black friends.

You guys just go ahead and take over all the threads and turn them into a hate fest for libs, immigrants, democrats, whiners and weak people. Divide and conquer, give no quarter. Note the decreased participation in the forum and then go hoist a few and congratulate yourselves on what a good job you've done enlightening all the rest of us.

You should call your doctor...I think it's called Vallium...take a couple...it'll do you some good.  And I know what you're thinking and...since only rich, white, Republicans can afford healthcare, might I suggest a case of Natural Light instead.  Either way it'll calm you down.

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by tytan

No one is saying Imus doesn`t have the right to say whatever he wants. He`s gotten away w/ things like this in the past because it was a different time for us socially. Now minority groups have a little more power and will respond to comments like this in stronger force. Sharpton and Jackson have always objected to these comments even from the rap community, Because it didn`t affect the white community at the time, no one cared. Guess what,... people care now and they have the right to protest it in full strength. Can he say whatever he wants? Sure. Is there a price to pay for it now? You betcha.....

Too bad there isn't a price to be paid for being anti-semitic in America anymore.

[cannon_fodder]

It can stop you from ever being a viable political  candidate again if you refer to New York City as Hymietown (sp?).

ps. I'm offended by some of the posts on this forum.  I demand, DEMAND the offending offender be banished because I was offended.  I dont care if you are offended by my insistence on banishment, because it doesnt matter what offends you.  The standard of care for this offense is only what offends me.  I am all that is really important here.  Well of course it doesnt matter that the offensive comments were not directed at me and the people they were directed at didn't seem that offended.  I was offended, that's all that matters.  I am all that matters, keep your cameras on me.  What dont you get here?


Stupidism.

[waterboy]

I wish there was something worth responding to in all that juvenile blathering (stupidism comes close to topic) but alas, there is nothing. Perhaps some good comes of all these character assaults and dodging of issues though. Those who peruse this forum considering moving here will be able to see what is behind all of the "southern hospitality" they always comment on when visiting. They will see that we are little different than where they came from.

You need any help learning the Truth IP, I would be glad to help.[] Of course for learning to begin, the student must arrive.

[rwarn17588]

I'm appalled that there seems to be people on this forum kinda-sorta *defending* what Imus said by ragging on the protesters.

What Imus said was wrong. Whoever protests afterward doesn't change that.

Instead, they're demonizing the person who protests a bad deed. Talk about lousy priorities. That'd be like ragging against MLK while ignoring the bus segregation that's taking place during the 1960s.

Have you no decency?

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

I wish there was something worth responding to in all that juvenile blathering (stupidism comes close to topic) but alas, there is nothing. Perhaps some good comes of all these character assaults and dodging of issues though. Those who peruse this forum considering moving here will be able to see what is behind all of the "southern hospitality" they always comment on when visiting. They will see that we are little different than where they came from.

You need any help learning the Truth IP, I would be glad to help.[] Of course for learning to begin, the student must arrive.

So now you're the locus of civility and Truth (TM)?  By this time tommorrow you'll be declaring yourself Pope...only if we could all just get it right and listen to you![]  BTW, which baclony will you be speaking from?

[iplaw]

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What Imus said was wrong. Whoever protests afterward doesn't change that.

I don't recall any of us taking up the Imus banner and championing his comments.  What we were discussing were corollary issues related to topic at large; namely the pot and kettle nature of some of those on the forefront of the issue.  I'm sorry if you're uncomfortable with that.

[rwarn17588]

I did see an awful lot of "kill the messenger" rhetoric and damned little outrage at Imus. Seems the outrage was a bit misdirected.

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

I did see an awful lot of "kill the messenger" rhetoric and damned little outrage at Imus. Seems the outrage was a bit misdirected.

That's what unintentionally happens when a notorious anti-semite is leading the charge.  I don't think there would be the same revulsion if it would have been the basketball team leading the charge for the firing of Imus, but unfortunately, it was Sharpton and Jackson.  I think it's time the black community start ostracizing these two jack***es because the messenger can taint the message.

The Rutgers team has been the most understanding and compassionate view towards Imus of all parties involved, and they were the ones who were personally affected.  None of them called for the firing of Imus.  Yet Sharpton and Jackson, who apparently speak for all of black America now, would have pushed for his crucifixion if it were left up to them.

I personally think comedians like Paul Mooney and others who have called for the elimination of the word in the entertainment industry are right.  Words should either be available for all or none.

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

I did see an awful lot of "kill the messenger" rhetoric and damned little outrage at Imus. Seems the outrage was a bit misdirected.

That's what unintentionally happens when a notorious anti-semite is leading the charge.  I don't think there would be the same revulsion if it would have been the basketball team leading the charge for the firing of Imus, but unfortunately, it was Sharpton and Jackson.  I think it's time the black community start ostracizing these two jack***es because the messenger can taint the message.

The Rutgers team has been the most understanding and compassionate view towards Imus of all parties involved, and they were the ones who were personally affected.  None of them called for the firing of Imus.  Yet Sharpton and Jackson, who apparently speak for all of black America now, would have pushed for his crucifixion if it were left up to them.

I personally think comedians like Paul Mooney and others who have called for the elimination of the word in the entertainment industry are right.  Words should either be available for all or none.

Well, for heavens sake man, don't be shy. Get up on a balcony downtown and start spreading the word. Black people need to hear your truth!Then you can get death threats like Sharpton and Jackson. Heaven forbid the black community should listen to the unworthy who have merely spoken their viewpoints. Oh yes, they need new leaders that some whitey lawyer in Okieville could live with.

[iplaw]

quote:Well, for heavens sake man, don't be shy. Get up on a balcony downtown and start spreading the word. Black people need to hear your truth!Then you can get death threats like Sharpton and Jackson. Heaven forbid the black community should listen to the unworthy who have merely spoken their viewpoints. Oh yes, they need new leaders that some whitey lawyer in Okieville could live with.

You're the Pope of the Tulsa PC scene not me.  Apparently you enjoy or empathize with their anti-semitic comments, because they certainly don't seem to bother you.

[Conan71]

What amazes me is the blind liberalism that allows Al $harpton to get away with his divisive, inflammatory comments.  WB, if he were white and a Republican, I doubt you'd be talking about his cogent comments in the last presidential race.  

People with his mind-set are what keeps the racial divide alive and well.

BTW- the rebel flag is very offensive to me, it is a symbol of the worst black-eye on our American history.  Please quit playing blind-man in insisting it only means "defiance" and other more innocuous things.