Supreme Court Begins Undoing Roe

[cannon_fodder]

IP is correct.

The Supreme Court has never said a woman has the right to kill the fetus when and how she sees fit.  This is a logical extension of their prior rulings and in no way moves towards reversing Roe.  It does, however, make a move towards encouraging states to challenge it (which will fail) or place further restrictions on the procedure.
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Cubs:  No, I am not sorry that 33 people died at VT.  I'm only sorry that 32 of them died, the 33rd can rot in hell.

If you really care about my thoughts on the issue, go read the pages and pages of posts IP and I have logged on the issue.  To sum it up, not all life is granted equal rights.  The determination of WHEN to apply those rights is what is important.  The students at VT were without a doubt within the class of persons afforded rights both by our country and by the UN Commission on Human Rights.  A non-viable fetus does not have that protection by either the US nor the UN.

If you cannot point out a few of the differences between a 20 year old person and a 9 week old fetus, you seriously need to do some research on that topic.

[iplaw]

The dems are going to take a beating over this issue.  They HAVE to tow the line for their constituency, and the candidates already are.

Unfortunately towing the line in this instance encompasses partially delivering all but the head of a child, stabbing it in the back of the head with scissors and sucking its brains out and thinking that this is somehow okay in a civil society.

Yeah for the barbarians!

CF:

I don't think I've made my position completely clear on abortion...so far...

[cannon_fodder]

I understand that any didnt mean to imply your stance on the issue.  Simply agreeing with your statement that this decision does not undermine Roe (and, as an interjection, that Jefferson would be pissed at the current imperial federal government).

[iplaw]

Yep.  No giant leaps for pro-life here, just one disgusting arm of the beast.

[guido911]

IP: You are probably the only person who does not view this as a victory for pro-life. Take a look at the opinion and, if you can, compare it Casey. The conversation is different. Jeez, when you have Hillary, Barack, Edwards, Boxer all whining about the end of women's rights, what does that mean?

[guido911]

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[okiebybirth]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

Most all of the nonsense that gets codified by the feds should be state issues.  Jefferson would be pissed.

Funny how you are for state's rights when it suits you, but you think a federal marriage admendment is required instead of allowing the states to decide what constitutes marriage like they always have done.

Guido, I've never seen someone take more material out of Rove's playbook than you.  Not everything is a wedge you can use to try and polarize the country, or this forum in your case.  I hope someday this country shuns people who look to sow division and we start civil dialogue again.

[iplaw]

quote:
Funny how you are for state's rights when it suits you, but you think a federal marriage admendment is required instead of allowing the states to decide what constitutes marriage like they always have done.

I don't recall me supporting that amendment, but if you say so.

[okiebybirth]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:
Funny how you are for state's rights when it suits you, but you think a federal marriage admendment is required instead of allowing the states to decide what constitutes marriage like they always have done.

I don't recall me supporting that amendment, but if you say so.

Okay, I'm glad to know you are truly a republican and support state's rights.  I should have been more specific and said the majority in your party supports that admendment.  I'll try and not slander you.. []

[okiebybirth]

quote:Originally posted by Cubs

Thank you Supreme Court!
Millions of babies have been killed by abortion, I don't comprehend how anyone could support abortions.
Do you think it is tragic that 33 people died at Virginia Tech? I hope so. So why don't you have a problem with MILLIONS of babies being killed?
It is hypocritical PERIOD

Hypocritical is using a current tragedy to try and support your viewpoint but whine about others using the same tragedy to push their viewpoint (gun control).  Wallow in the mud there Cubs.

[Conan71]

Here's a weird irony, if your mother would have had an abortion, you wouldn't be Okiebybirth.  I'm glad my mother didn't, however my ex-wife might disagree. []

[okiebybirth]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

Here's a weird irony, if your mother would have had an abortion, you wouldn't be Okiebybirth.  I'm glad my mother didn't, however my ex-wife might disagree. []

The irony is lost on me.  My mother wanted a family, so here I am.  If she had used contraception, then I wouldn't have been here either and it wouldn't have been a issue either way.

[Conan71]

Just making a pun.  Ironic to see a username like "okiebybirth" under an abortion thread.  No commentary nor offense intended.

[guido911]

OKIE: As with IP, I also cannot recall stating my support of a federal marriage amendment although it's noteworthy that democrat Bill Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act).

Rove's playbook:  What are you talking about? I have been anti-abortion since I can remember. I think Roe was a stupid decision--both legally and morally. I also think partial birth abortion is the height of barbarism, with everyday abortion for purpose of birth control being a close second.  


Teddy:  Funny how non-veteran folks want to debate the code of conduct for soldiers at war or how to handle prisoners of war. Pretty wussy if you ask me...Funny how people who have never had a family member murdered or raped would generally be against murder or rape...Pretty uneducated opinions if you ask me...

[okiebybirth]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

Just making a pun.  Ironic to see a username like "okiebybirth" under an abortion thread.  No commentary nor offense intended.

None taken Conan.