Night to Honor Israel

[mikey]

I went to the Night to Honor Israel on Monday at Victory Christian Center and thoroughly enjoyed it.  Did anyone else on this forum go?  If so, what did you think of it?

[Rowdy]

quote:Originally posted by mikey

I went to the Night to Honor Israel on Monday at Victory Christian Center and thoroughly enjoyed it.  Did anyone else on this forum go?  If so, what did you think of it?

No. I was wondering how it went.

[MichaelC]

The news didn't report any car bombings, human rights abuses, or random killing of civilians, in the area of 81st and Lewis.  So I assume it went well.

No word on concentration camps, appeasement, or blitzkrieg either.  So much for the so-called Oklahoma "Nazis".  They probably "blitzkrieg"ed right on over to the Creek Casino afterwards.

[Rowdy]

quote:Originally posted by mikey

I went to the Night to Honor Israel on Monday at Victory Christian Center and thoroughly enjoyed it.  Did anyone else on this forum go?  If so, what did you think of it?

Found out 7,000 people showed up-not a bad turnout.

[inteller]

Im curious how many countries have "Celebrate USA" every year on the 4th of July.

the ferver of this event is almost cultish.  Ensure that a country succeeds so you can fulfill your own religious destiny....weird.

[Johnboy976]

Keep in mind that while Oral Roberts may have gotten many of his tent-meeting basis from the Pentecostal church, he was and is predominantly United Methodist.

On another note, I personally believe that the "Prosperity Gospel" message of the Pentecostal movement (which is present in most televangelists, but does not represent the majority of the movement) exudes cultish tendencies. However, the Pentecostal movement, for the most part, is theologically sound.

Now this Israel thing is scary. It stems from an ilconceived theology of eschatology (the end times). For 1800 years the Church generally believed that in the "tribulation," both believers and unbelievers would be present.  This "Pro-Israel movement" follows the dispensational view, where believers are not present in the tribulation, and is only a recent thought in the history of the Church. I have to say that this theology is misguided, at best.

[MichaelC]

quote:Originally posted by Johnboy976

Now this Israel thing is scary. It stems from an ilconceived theology of eschatology (the end times). For 1800 years the Church generally believed that in the "tribulation," both believers and unbelievers would be present.  This "Pro-Israel movement" follows the dispensational view, where believers are not present in the tribulation, and is only a recent thought in the history of the Church. I have to say that this theology is misguided, at best.

I saw some Jewish author talking about Israeli-US relations and Jewish-Christian relations once.  He kind of mentioned it off-hand, but he mentioned the concept that at least parts of Christianity in its quest for Biblical Armageddon where not only supporting Israel's campaign to push out Palestinians, but that eventually the idea was to convert Israel to Christianity.  Israel has to be "whole", whatever that's supposed to means, then it has to be converted.  It's kind of sick, but it explains why in the face of our "alliance" with Israel, they choose to extensively spy on us.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by teddy jack eddy

I'm sure Pentecostalism is a cult.

Look at the life of Aimee Semple McPherson.  She was a totally narcissistic drug addict that abandoned her family to start what we know now as the Pentecostal movement in America.

It was all based on her, and the American Pentecostal Church basically began with her, in 1907.

She died from a barbituate overdose. She even faked her own drowning for attention, and might have been lesbian.

Google ol' Aimee up, and see what you think.  I say Pentecostalism is a cult.  Anybody can preach s&^t over the airwaves; she was the first to do so, with her own Los Angeles radio station that broadcast from her church.

I understand that's where Oral Roberts got the ideas for his tent revivals and television ministry.

I think Pentecostals are totally brainwashed, many of them today don't even know much about Sister Aimee.

She was such an embarassment to the Pentecostal church that they eventually downplayed her role in the founding of the American Pentecostal movement; to the point most people haven't heard of her.

Painting all Pentecostalism as a cult is a pretty broad stroke.  But I will agree that there are plenty of cults which have splintered off from the mainstream by extremists who embraced and bastardized the Pentecostal ideals.  There is also pretty good latitude in defining what one sees as a cult.

There are a lot of people who have risen to power in the Pentecostal faith who have done it soley to seek out their own riches and their own sick control over others.  Yet there are others who have lived humbly and provided great charity around the world.

I've tried about every brand of the Christian faith including Catholicism and finally got tired of the message being filtered to suit the human preacher's personal interpretation.  I reject the notion of needing an "interpreter" in order to have a personal relationship with God.