This is why the Democrats will lose in '08

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by Hawkins

The troops can't all be withdrawn at once, so I would imagine that they do need to be funded.

Sure they can.  They could offer a bill that delineates money for exit funding only.  They have no obligation to continue the current funding levels that the president has asked for.

They are playing games.  The have the power, they have the will of the people behind them.

[iplaw]

quote:No, the Republicans are still very much in the way.  The President vetoed the bill and there are not enough Republicans (yet) to override his veto.

I think you're jumping to conclusions, anyway.  All are now "in negotiations" on a new bill.  Nobody knows what that bill will look like.

What do you care if they're in your way?  The American people support YOU; screw the naysayers.

You've bi*ched and b*tched about ending this war and all it takes is ONE act of Congress to defund and it's all over for this war.

[rwarn17588]

Iplaw, you wanted the war so badly. Now you're advocating defunding it entirely.

Are you all right?

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

Iplaw, you wanted the war so badly. Now you're advocating defunding it entirely.

Are you all right?

Check your comprehension meter.  

What the Democrats are doing is painfully obvious.  It's nothing more than a charade and a sham.  IP is pointing out if they really wanted to end it, they would end it instead of playing games to make them look better in '08.

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

Iplaw, you wanted the war so badly. Now you're advocating defunding it entirely.

Are you all right?

I know this was sarcastic, but if I felt as strongly about ending the war as you swake pretend to, I would be pissed at the charades playing out in DC right now.

It just further reinforces my suspicion that the complaints are really not about the war at all.

[Chris]

If the dems were to pass a bill de-funding the war couldn't the president just veto it like he did this one?

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by Chris

If the dems were to pass a bill de-funding the war couldn't the president just veto it like he did this one?

No.  They wouldn't pass a bill so to speak, they would abstain from passing a measure for funds.  Their non-action would defund the war.

[Chris]

I see. I wasn't sure, I guess I need to retake civics. Thanks for the correction.

[Wrinkle]

IP,
I like your logic. Makes your point.
Of course, it's been relatively obvious that was the situation from the get-go.

But, then, Ms. Reid and the girls don't think anyone should ever hit another person.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by Wrinkle

IP,
I like your logic. Makes your point.
Of course, it's been relatively obvious that was the situation from the get-go.

But, then, Ms. Reid and the girls don't think anyone should ever hit another person.

Hawwy Weid looks like the kid they used to stick "kick me" signs on his back in school.

[Chicken Little]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Originally posted by Chris

If the dems were to pass a bill de-funding the war couldn't the president just veto it like he did this one?

No.  They wouldn't pass a bill so to speak, they would abstain from passing a measure for funds.  Their non-action would defund the war.

I see where you are going, and Feingold has already said he'll vote against a funding measure that does not include a withdrawal date.

But I still think you are being premature.  And now it looks like I'm not alone.  From the librul blogs:

quote: Greg Sargent contacted Reid and Pelosi's offices for a response. According to his contacts, it's not true. Pelosi's staff:

Not true. Speaker just told members of the Democratic caucus that the story is totally untrue. We are still deciding what provisions the new bill will include.

Senator Reid's office:

No decisions have been made on this yet. No options have been ruled in or out.

If Pelosi is a poker player, she'll send back a new funding plan with an earlier withdrawal date.  If the Republicans want to keep blocking funds for the troops, that's their choice.

[Chris]

quote:Originally posted by Chicken Little


If Pelosi is a poker player, she'll send back a new funding plan with an earlier withdrawal date.  If the Republicans want to keep blocking funds for the troops, that's their choice.

That's a great idea. Put the ball in the Repubs hands and see if they are willing to hold up funds when the majority of the country wants us out of Iraq. It will also force them to explain why they think there should not be a timetable for a pull out.

[Wrinkle]

Dear Iraqi People, Politicians and Terrorists of the region,

The United States Military Command, at the request of the United States' Democratically-Controlled Congress, offer this Public Service Announcement:

U.S. Armed Forces will be conducting foriegn war-like operations in and around the Iraqi territory between now and September 1, 2007. As these activities can be quite dangerous, we suggest you not attempt hostile engagement of our forces during this time because they will kick your as*(es). However, if you wish to attempt to cause us harm and/or aggrivation, try to take time during this very public opportunity to do so. We will be pleased to fit you in. Otherwise, please mark your calendars and make appropriate adjustments to your schedules so as to cause the least negative effect on your ordinary activities. If everyone cooperates, we'll be outta here in no time.

After that date, please send all requests to Harry Reid and/or Nancy Pelosi c/o The United States Congress, that is, if you're not dead.
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Need any other reason?

[iplaw]

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That's beautiful!

[USRufnex]

quote:Originally posted by Wrinkle

Dear Iraqi People, Politicians and Terrorists of the region,

The United States Military Command, at the request of the United States' Democratically-Controlled Congress, offer this Public Service Announcement:

U.S. Armed Forces will be conducting foriegn war-like operations in and around the Iraqi territory between now and September 1, 2007. As these activities can be quite dangerous, we suggest you not attempt hostile engagement of our forces during this time because they will kick your as*(es). However, if you wish to attempt to cause us harm and/or aggrivation, try to take time during this very public opportunity to do so. We will be pleased to fit you in. Otherwise, please mark your calendars and make appropriate adjustments to your schedules so as to cause the least negative effect on your ordinary activities. If everyone cooperates, we'll be outta here in no time.

After that date, please send all requests to Harry Reid and/or Nancy Pelosi c/o The United States Congress, that is, if you're not dead.
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Need any other reason?

Dear Wrinkle,

Thank you for your continuous support for American troups in their third and fourth tours of duty in Iraq.  

No one would like to see a continuous presence of US forces in Iraq as much as I would.

It makes my recruiting MUCH easier.

Hugs & kisses.


Osama bin Ladin