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How would the KKK run the war?

Started by sgrizzle, May 08, 2007, 01:35:57 PM

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patric

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Originally posted by cannon_fodder

Lee was a great general and a statesmen. But he was tolerant of the institution and owned slaves.


Rather than take possession of slaves his wife inherited, he freed them.  The assumption that her property becomes his in Victorian times is another argument altogether.

When Lee wrote: "slavery as an institution is a moral and political evil" it might have been tolerant of mid 19thC America's version of "cheap energy"  but would hardly be an endorsement.  He knew it was wrong and was disgusted by it, but also knew it's place in the economy then.  Conversely, We know of things being done today that are "morally and politically evil' but are collectively too afraid to drop the reins of the American Dream and take a stand against it.

Lincoln was also known as one of the greatest statesmen, but he was also known as a tyrant for suspending the bill of rights and Habeas Corpus,  jailing reporters and closing newspapers...
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cannon_fodder

quote:
Originally posted by patric


Rather than take possession of slaves his wife inherited, he freed them.



I am forced to assume you did not read my post.  

General Lee took possession of the slaves and used them as his personal property for the 5 years the Will allowed.  He worked them, rented them out, had them whipped... just as was expected of a slave owner.

You are correct that he did not like slavery, but he accepted it.  He even thought it was in the Negro's best interest and necessary for their development.

I outlined all of this very clearly above.  But once more:
General Robert E. Lee owned and worked slaves on his plantation under his personal supervision.
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jamesrage

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Originally posted by rwarn17588
How can a Southern general be successful, yet his side lose at the same time? That makes no sense.

That's like saying Rommel was successful, except for that instance of getting the crap beat out of him in North Africa. Like it or not, being on the losing side colors your resume.

It's also spelled "loser." Although a few of the generals might have been loose if they'd been on the battlefield a little too long. [;)]



Perhaps his success was in the individual missions in the war he took part in not the over all war.For example his commanders  tell him to secure a hill and he does,wouldn't that mean he was successful from that perspective?
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Conan71

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Originally posted by cannon_fodder

He worked them, rented them out, had them whipped... just as was expected of a slave owner.

You are correct that he did not like slavery, but he accepted it.  He even thought it was in the Negro's best interest and necessary for their development.




Do you think this treatment would cure liberalism? [}:)]
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RecycleMichael

It didn't work on me.

When I win the lottery, I plan to start my own town. I am going to name it like the one in Kansas.

Liberal.

Liberal, Oklahoma
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Conan71

I always wanted someone from Liberal, Ks. to run for President on the GOP ticket.

Then we could call him/her the conservative from Liberal.
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sgrizzle

I would name my city "City" or "A Town In" just to confuzzle the post office. Maybe even name the town "Post Office."