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« on: May 29, 2007, 05:16:01 pm » |
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I just had a meeting with a possible client for a large Casino job. I would be doing the murals on canvas and then shipping them to the site. But I need to find out where and how much it would cost to rent a space in order to give a complete quote.
I would need a space with at least 10' ceilings prefferably 12' or higher and at least one unobstructed wall 20' long. That would be about the size of a single mural segment.
This would be the largest mural job I have ever gotten if I get it. The building is to be a quarter of a mile long and I will be doing 5 large ceiling murals that are "octagonal domes". The larger of the 5 will be 48' across the smaller 4 will be 30' across.
I did a calculation of the amount of canvas I will need and it came to about 750 linear feet of 12' tall canvas. It will cost around 18,000 dollars just for that. Yikes! I have done some big murals but this project is startlingly large even for me.
And I will have about 10 months to do it all in.
Any info and advice on any available spaces
would be very welcome.
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AngieB
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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2007, 05:42:42 am » |
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I had an idea....PM sent.
Good luck!
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mspivey
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2007, 07:21:20 am » |
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You didn't mention one other piece of the requirement - A BIG DOOR!
Hope you get the contract.
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sgrizzle
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2007, 08:18:37 am » |
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Yes, the door will be an issue. I assume climate control could come into play as well.
the 41st/51st mingo-sheridan area has a ton of industrial spaces that rent fairly cheap. They are all warehouse strip malls pretty much.
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Conan71
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2007, 09:29:59 am » |
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Artist, I have some space available, I will PM you.
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TheArtist
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2007, 10:13:09 am » |
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Actually I won't have to worry about the door. The canvas will be on rolls and can be rolled back up when I am done painting each one.
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2007, 07:00:40 pm » |
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Ok, after checking out prices and locations I am starting to lean towards the idea of having one of those large sheds you get at Home Depot, put up in my backyard. Most rents for about a year will run me around 6,000. A really nice shed that I can make into a little artists studio in my backyard, and its a huuuge yard, would cost around 8,000 set up included. And I have always wanted one anyway.
How would I find out about neighborhood ordinances?
Who would I need to call city wise to get a permit?
Do I need an inspector if I have an electrician put in a couple of outlets and a light? Would also like a sink so I can clean brushes.
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Conan71
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2007, 07:49:55 am » |
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Originally posted by TheArtist
Ok, after checking out prices and locations I am starting to lean towards the idea of having one of those large sheds you get at Home Depot, put up in my backyard. Most rents for about a year will run me around 6,000. A really nice shed that I can make into a little artists studio in my backyard, and its a huuuge yard, would cost around 8,000 set up included. And I have always wanted one anyway.
How would I find out about neighborhood ordinances?
Who would I need to call city wise to get a permit?
Do I need an inspector if I have an electrician put in a couple of outlets and a light? Would also like a sink so I can clean brushes.
Likely the best place to start would be the COT construction licenses and permits dept. at 111 N. Greenwood. 596-9601. If that isn't the right place, I'm sure you can get steered in the right direction. Which sheds are you talking about? The big barn-shaped ones? Should be simple enough, I believe they use a cinder block foundation. Now adding electric to code and plumbing will wind up probably tacking on another $3K or so to the project- just a guess. You could always run an extension cord to the shed and install a surge strip on a wall and wire using cords from there. Somewhat clumsy, but it'll work. You can always buy one of those mop sinks at HD or Lowe's, run a hose to it or to some PVC and use conventional faucets. There's a number of ways to do it. Join us for lunch at Napoli's tomorrow and we can discuss it. I've got far too many ideas to put into a workable forum post without some smart-A calling me a know-it-all. [  ] |
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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2007, 09:47:28 am » |
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Originally posted by TheArtist
Ok, after checking out prices and locations I am starting to lean towards the idea of having one of those large sheds you get at Home Depot, put up in my backyard. Most rents for about a year will run me around 6,000. A really nice shed that I can make into a little artists studio in my backyard, and its a huuuge yard, would cost around 8,000 set up included. And I have always wanted one anyway.
How would I find out about neighborhood ordinances?
Who would I need to call city wise to get a permit?
Do I need an inspector if I have an electrician put in a couple of outlets and a light? Would also like a sink so I can clean brushes.
There are maximum square footages and heights for accessory buildings. The square footages generally are a percentage of the footprint of the primary dwelling. My only thought is that those things generally get reallllllllllllllly hot in the summer. Are you going to air condition it? [}:)] |
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TheArtist
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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2007, 12:27:16 pm » |
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Yes I want to get one of the 16x20 barn type buildings with the 16' vaulted ceilings. I will insulate and sheetrock the interior and definitely install an air conditioning unit.[8D] I stepped inside the one they have displayed at the Home Depot on 41st and Sheridan. They seem very sturdy and I really like having a high open space like that to work in. I will probably make it look like a little cottage with a porch, window over the french doors with shutters, flower boxes, little rustic fence and some roses, a bird bath. etc, etc. It will be so cute you will puke lol. [  ] |
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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2007, 01:43:50 pm » |
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by TheArtist
Ok, after checking out prices and locations I am starting to lean towards the idea of having one of those large sheds you get at Home Depot, put up in my backyard. Most rents for about a year will run me around 6,000. A really nice shed that I can make into a little artists studio in my backyard, and its a huuuge yard, would cost around 8,000 set up included. And I have always wanted one anyway.
How would I find out about neighborhood ordinances?
Who would I need to call city wise to get a permit?
Do I need an inspector if I have an electrician put in a couple of outlets and a light? Would also like a sink so I can clean brushes.
Likely the best place to start would be the COT construction licenses and permits dept. at 111 N. Greenwood. 596-9601. If that isn't the right place, I'm sure you can get steered in the right direction.
Which sheds are you talking about? The big barn-shaped ones? Should be simple enough, I believe they use a cinder block foundation. Now adding electric to code and plumbing will wind up probably tacking on another $3K or so to the project- just a guess.
You could always run an extension cord to the shed and install a surge strip on a wall and wire using cords from there. Somewhat clumsy, but it'll work. You can always buy one of those mop sinks at HD or Lowe's, run a hose to it or to some PVC and use conventional faucets. There's a number of ways to do it.
Join us for lunch at Napoli's tomorrow and we can discuss it. I've got far too many ideas to put into a workable forum post without some smart-A calling me a know-it-all. []
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LilMikey
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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2007, 02:56:02 pm » |
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I know of a place that rents rehersal space to bands that may be of help; The Complex Music School and Rehersal Studio at 8600 S Lewis - I believe their number is 518-6260.
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Conan71
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« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2007, 03:00:06 pm » |
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NOOBIE! NOOBIE! [ ] Yeah, I'm just a regular Cliff Claybon (sp?)... |
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AngieB
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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2007, 03:14:26 pm » |
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Rico
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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2007, 08:42:03 pm » |
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Originally posted by TheArtist
Yes I want to get one of the 16x20 barn type buildings with the 16' vaulted ceilings. I will insulate and sheetrock the interior and definitely install an air conditioning unit.[8D] I stepped inside the one they have displayed at the Home Depot on 41st and Sheridan. They seem very sturdy and I really like having a high open space like that to work in. I will probably make it look like a little cottage with a porch, window over the french doors with shutters, flower boxes, little rustic fence and some roses, a bird bath. etc, etc. It will be so cute you will puke lol. []
From this post you may want to check your zoning. You just may want to price out the permits cost, licensed electrician fees, and I assume you are talking a slab o' concrete.... underneath.. The finished product could very well cost more than you are thinking at present. Michael Sager has a lot of vacant property Downtown.. he has been known, in the past, to help an artist or two. |
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