Drinkers asked to sign petition

[RecycleMichael]

The group with petitions to allow Oklahoma retal stores to sell strong beer and wine are planning to have a petitions at the Oklahoma State fair on OKC.

Here is the KRMG story...

Wine-Beer Petition
OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) - An initiative drive is being planned by a group that wants to give grocery stores the right to sell wine and full strength beer. Oklahomans for Modern Laws plans to collect signatures during the Oklahoma State Fair in Oklahoma City, September 13th through the 23rd. Backers of the initiative said that updating state law governing wine and beer sales will be good for Oklahoma's economy. Officials of the retail liquor industry have indicated they will oppose the plan because it would cut into their sales.

Here is the website...

http://www.modernlawsok.org/

[Conan71]

Do you have to be sober to sign the petition?

Functioning alcoholics know how to deal with the present laws.  I know to get to the liquor store before 9pm and to lay in my after-church provisions on Saturday. [}:)]

[cannon_fodder]

That doesnt mean the laws aren't stupid.  The more prudish one is with alcohol the more of a societal problem it tends to become.  

Though the liquor store lobby coupled with the "then everyone will be drunk!" religous folk and the "think of the children" crowd will surely sink this ship.

[mr.jaynes]

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

The group with petitions to allow Oklahoma retal stores to sell strong beer and wine are planning to have a petitions at the Oklahoma State fair on OKC.

Here is the KRMG story...

Wine-Beer Petition
OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) - An initiative drive is being planned by a group that wants to give grocery stores the right to sell wine and full strength beer. Oklahomans for Modern Laws plans to collect signatures during the Oklahoma State Fair in Oklahoma City, September 13th through the 23rd. Backers of the initiative said that updating state law governing wine and beer sales will be good for Oklahoma's economy. Officials of the retail liquor industry have indicated they will oppose the plan because it would cut into their sales.

Here is the website...

http://www.modernlawsok.org/

Gee, and in New Orleans, one can walk over to the Rite Aid or Circle K and buy hard liquor. Really convenient if it's 2 AM and you're out of Jim Beam!

[Townsend]

I know many people that would sign that petition as many times as we could get away with

[RecycleMichael]

I lot of people agree with me when they have been drinking.

I wonder if they pay the clipboard folk...I could use a little more income.

[sgrizzle]

I've been in QT at 2 in the morning on a very regular basis. I can see some arguments in support of the 2am cutoff on weak beer and no late night liquor sales. The employees and myself were the only ones in the store with a full grasp of english. Keep in mind these were generally yuppie  club rats so it was still entertaining to watch.

[guido911]

I would sign the petition. I have always thought that only liquor stores could sell liquor was stupid.

[JamesDVD]

I grew up in California, where you could walk into an Albertson's and buy your grocery's, a bottle of wine, or a bottle of booze... it's nice to be able to get everything done at 1 place... instead of having to drive all over town.

[mr.jaynes]

And also, in Louisiana, what was good was that with some brands, you could buy various liquors in larger sizes than in Oklahoma.

[sgrizzle]

In Louisiana you can also buy mixed drinks at a drive through.

41% of the driving fatalities in Louisiana are tied to drunk driving. 35% in Oklahoma.

[cannon_fodder]

Objection!  That's both anecdotal evidence and assumes a causation even though there isn't even a proven correlation.

Do you really think the alcohol laws as currently enforced in Oklahoma prevent anyone from drinking exactly as much alcohol as they want to?

For that matter, has anyone know an 18 year old that doesn't drink exactly as much alcohol as they want to?  

Bah...

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

Objection!  That's both anecdotal evidence and assumes a causation even though there isn't even a proven correlation.

Do you really think the alcohol laws as currently enforced in Oklahoma prevent anyone from drinking exactly as much alcohol as they want to?

For that matter, has anyone know an 18 year old that doesn't drink exactly as much alcohol as they want to?  

Bah...

Not exactly anecdotal when (then time) governor Mike Foster said the Louisiana liquor laws and their lax enforcement were to blame.

If you tape the straw to the lid of the cup, it's not an open container. Scotch tape is the Louisiana way of stopping drunk driving.

[cannon_fodder]

Yeah, but he was probably drunk when he said that.  And in any even, then it would be hearsay. I must press my objection your honor.

and nonetheless, my points about getting alcohol still stand - so the availability laws probably are not the key factor in the statistic you stated.

[sgrizzle]

Move to strike, argumentative.