River Plan- Public Infrastructure

[Double A]

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by Oil Capital

quote:Originally posted by Chicken Little

quote:Originally posted by Oil Capital

CL,

Read more carefully.  He neither "insinuated" nor said that the bank itself put out the yard signs.

OC,

Think more clearly.  What does "...the top management of the bank directed..." mean?  What exactly do you think bank means if not the management of the bank?  You see, the "bank itself" is a building, an inanimate object, and does not speak.

Think more clearly indeed.   It really could not be much simpler, and it most clearly does not mean they directed the "bank" or the bank employees to run around town putting out yard signs.  It means they directed bank employees to give the employee addresses to the Vision 2025 team so that they could have THEIR people (volunteers, whatever, put out the yard signs).     Only those desperate to change the subject (and pile on a non-Koolaid drinker) could have read anything else into that sentence.

All ordnance delivered right on target, Oil Capital!

Your LASER Range Finder brought those Cluster Bombs right smack in the middle of the flock:

Feathers, and Chicken parts are flying everywhere!

Please follow-up with low-level Napalm, and we'll enjoy some crispy FRIED CHICKEN for Supper.

I like my Chicken finger-lickin' GOOD!

I think I'll head out to KFC.  

Just got that old Fried Chicken feeling coming over me now.

Apparently, more than one of us quit drinking the Banana Republic of Tulsa Kool-Aid.

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[Chicken Little]

quote:Originally posted by Oil Capital

Think more clearly indeed.   It really could not be much simpler, and it most clearly does not mean they directed the "bank" or the bank employees to run around town putting out yard signs.  It means they directed bank employees to give the employee addresses to the Vision 2025 team so that they could have THEIR people (volunteers, whatever, put out the yard signs).     Only those desperate to change the subject (and pile on a non-Koolaid drinker) could have read anything else into that sentence.

Oh, that's just goofy.  In your little scenario, who delivers said threatening message?

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by Chicken Little

quote:Originally posted by Oil Capital

Think more clearly indeed.   It really could not be much simpler, and it most clearly does not mean they directed the "bank" or the bank employees to run around town putting out yard signs.  It means they directed bank employees to give the employee addresses to the Vision 2025 team so that they could have THEIR people (volunteers, whatever, put out the yard signs).     Only those desperate to change the subject (and pile on a non-Koolaid drinker) could have read anything else into that sentence.

Oh, that's just goofy.  In your little scenario, who delivers said threatening message?

CL, you must have never worked for a living.  Especially employees with a spouse, kids, a big mortgage, orthodontic bills, etc., they're just too vulnerable to dismissal, and they just DO NOT want to rock the boat.

So, they go along to get along.

The way Oklahoma is an "at-will" state, you can be dismissed by your employer without cause in the blink of an eye.

Something like:  We've re-organized your department, and there's no position for you in the new organization.  Good-Bye.

The THREAT began when the bank posted that the bank SUPPORTED Vision 2025, and communicated that signs would be placed in the employee's residential yards.

Oh, employees were also told they could "opt-out" of the sign placement, but after first being clearly told in the internal communication that the bank SUPPORTED Vision 2025, and the new Tax.   The THREAT was implicit.

And, as a loyal bank employee, you're REALLY going to punch that opt-out button?

Haven't you ever heard the phrase, Team Player??

Sure, you have.  You and certain other Forum notables kind of work like a TEAM??

Hmmmhh??

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[sgrizzle]

Anyone see Today's World. Talks about bush vetoing the federal funding.

[Townsend]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

Anyone see Today's World. Talks about bush vetoing the federal funding.

Dammit

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by Townsend

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

Anyone see Today's World. Talks about bush vetoing the federal funding.

Dammit

Maybe timed with the bridge collapse, he'll reconsider.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by Townsend

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

Anyone see Today's World. Talks about bush vetoing the federal funding.

Dammit

Maybe timed with the bridge collapse, he'll reconsider.

Gee, finally found some backbone after only 6.5 years in office.

Oh, the wonders of Medicine!

Truly amazing.

[TheArtist]

So is it legal or not legal to tell your employees to put up the signs. If it is I will tell mine to put up some Vote Yes signs. If they dont like it they can start their own company or go work some place else.

[mac]

The main thing I do not like about these river development proposals is that they don't connect with downtown. Most successful river projects I have seen have some physical connection to the downtown. All of these are proposed from 11th street to the south.

[Renaissance]

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

So is it legal or not legal to tell your employees to put up the signs. If it is I will tell mine to put up some Vote Yes signs. If they dont like it they can start their own company or go work some place else.

It's legal.  Probably backfire on you, but it's legal.

[TheArtist]

quote:Originally posted by mac

The main thing I do not like about these river development proposals is that they don't connect with downtown. Most successful river projects I have seen have some physical connection to the downtown. All of these are proposed from 11th street to the south.

I believe this plan does have some ideas and money to do some "connecing" elements to downtown. They want it to be easy and pleasant to get from the arena, ballpark, concert, etc. to whatever development happens on the west bank near downtown for instance.

[TheArtist]

quote:Originally posted by Floyd

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

So is it legal or not legal to tell your employees to put up the signs. If it is I will tell mine to put up some Vote Yes signs. If they dont like it they can start their own company or go work some place else.

It's legal.  Probably backfire on you, but it's legal.

I guess the calculation would be that losing their votes because they secretly hate me would be made up for by the signs convincing more people to vote yes.  Actually, they would never secretly hate me, they are quite adept at expressing things like that right out in the open. Jeez and ya know I can tell they are already itching to try and ask for... Whats that holiday? Oh yea Christmas, off once again this year. Poor reason to pick a mans pocket every 25th of December.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

quote:Originally posted by Floyd

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

So is it legal or not legal to tell your employees to put up the signs. If it is I will tell mine to put up some Vote Yes signs. If they dont like it they can start their own company or go work some place else.

It's legal.  Probably backfire on you, but it's legal.

I guess the calculation would be that losing their votes because they secretly hate me would be made up for by the signs convincing more people to vote yes.  Actually, they would never secretly hate me, they are quite adept at expressing things like that right out in the open. Jeez and ya know I can tell they are already itching to try and ask for... Whats that holiday? Oh yea Christmas, off once again this year. Poor reason to pick a mans pocket every 25th of December.

The basic dishonesty of this behavior is that the sign expresses bank management's viewpoint.  

Not the viewpoint of the employee.

The use of the residential yard of the employee is being coerced under an implied intimidation to provide the appearance of a widespread Grass-roots support for Vision 2025.

That act was a deception.

[Double A]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

quote:Originally posted by Floyd

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

So is it legal or not legal to tell your employees to put up the signs. If it is I will tell mine to put up some Vote Yes signs. If they dont like it they can start their own company or go work some place else.

It's legal.  Probably backfire on you, but it's legal.

I guess the calculation would be that losing their votes because they secretly hate me would be made up for by the signs convincing more people to vote yes.  Actually, they would never secretly hate me, they are quite adept at expressing things like that right out in the open. Jeez and ya know I can tell they are already itching to try and ask for... Whats that holiday? Oh yea Christmas, off once again this year. Poor reason to pick a mans pocket every 25th of December.

The basic dishonesty of this behavior is that the sign expresses bank management's viewpoint.  

Not the viewpoint of the employee.

The use of the residential yard of the employee is being coerced under an implied intimidation to provide the appearance of a widespread Grass-roots support for Vision 2025.

That act was a deception.

                                              Image is the art of deception. It has no credibility or substance. Illusionary(Visionary?) governments of business clearly cannot handle the realities of the business of government. All the  previous attempts at turning over our government to the private sector have been disastrous failures. Excuse me if I don't march  lockstep in the private partnership parade and goose step down that primrose path behind river fuhrer- John Selph.