(PROJECT) Brady Theater Redevelopment

[perspicuity85]

quote:Originally posted by PonderInc

OK, what's the deal?  I just heard that the Brady's contract with the current management company is done after November...and if the owner doesn't find another mgt company, "it will probably get boarded up" (in the words of a current employee).  That doesn't sound like "closed for renovations."

Do anybody have any scoop on this?  What's going on with the Old Lady?  I love this venue!  Lyle Lovett, kd lang, Bonnie Raitt...they all complimented this amazing theater and thanked Tulsa for keeping it alive.  So what gives?

You could try asking local TV or radio news about it.

[PonderInc]

I did a bit more digging.  Here's an article from the 5/29/07 OKC Journal Record:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4182/is_20070529/ai_n19204767

The article states that Historic Brady LLC is "hoping to move on a lease/purchase contract with Brady owner Peter Mayo by the end of the year....Having completed a feasibility study of the Brady Theater, the buyout group Historic Brady LLC desires to not only restore some of its celebrated ambiance, such as the Bruce Goff interiors installed in the 1930s, but also to bring needed upgrades, including handicap access and environmental systems and wider, more comfortable 21- inch seats. While that promises to lower its 2,750 seating capacity, the remodeling would take advantage of unused supports made for a third balcony, adding a level to bring its capacity back to 2,500.

"Working with Tulsa Entertainment Group LLC, the Historic Brady LLC also intends to build a two-story, 20,000-square-foot building on the west lot alongside the concert hall that would house not just a gift shop and restaurant but a nonprofit museum celebrating the acts that have performed there. That still-untitled heritage center already claims its first archives, the donated album collection of Rockin' John Henry and the Bobcats."

Please, please, please let this be true.  

[FOTD]

^ Not true. City/County voters made it difficult on the ole Lady with the arema and 2025.

Just think, for a small investment the COT could condemn the truckers, turn the areas into synergy and create a Beale street or a Nashville or an Austin with a small (relatively) investment.....


Shall we gather at the river (to cuss and discuss)....??


Anyway, do not be sooprised at what happens down in the Brady. Not looking too good....

[cannon_fodder]

How, in the hell, does an 18,000 seat arena have a detrimental effect on a 3,000 seat theater?  Its not like they will be competing for the same acts.

[swake]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

How, in the hell, does an 18,000 seat arena have a detrimental effect on a 3,000 seat theater?  Its not like they will be competing for the same acts.

The resurgence of the Cain's and the "Osage Events Center" are hurting the Brady. And the Brady is having problems NOW, and the arena isn't even open.

[sgrizzle]

I think brady's lack of remodeling hurts the brady more than the arena or the "osage events center."

Bands play the "osage events center" because the casino is footing the bill.

[perspicuity85]

Hate to always relate everything to marketing on these threads, but here I go again.  The Brady is a historic theatre, and has a much different feel than the BOk Center will, or certainly the Osage Events Center.  The BOk Center is perfect for Eric Clapton, Green Day, or Red Hot Chili Peppers concerts, while the Brady is more suited for The Strokes, The White Stripes, or Amy Winehouse.  The Osage Events Center is better for Ted Nugent or KC and the Sunshine Band.  Cain's is in my opinion the most likely competitor with the Brady, as both have potential for hosting what concertgoers view as cutting edge-type events.  The obvious difference in marketability between Cain's and The Brady is the size of the two venues.  It would be of strategic management value for the owners of Cain's and The Brady to merge business interests to better focus on their target market and maximize the potential of event attraction.  Historic venues like Cain's or the Brady are often preferred by Indie rock and bluesie-rock musicians (markets that have been growing dramatically for the past few years).  Cain's open-floor arrangement is also ideal for punk rock, alt. rock, and metal concerts(events that garner lots of jumping, mosh pits, or headbanging).  I also would like to see regular theatrical and comedy productions at the Brady- it would lessen the dependence on concerts.

Anyway, that's just my take on this issue.  I sincerely hope the Brady's future can somehow be secured.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by perspicuity85

Hate to always relate everything to marketing on these threads, but here I go again.  The Brady is a historic theatre, and has a much different feel than the BOk Center will, or certainly the Osage Events Center.  The BOk Center is perfect for Eric Clapton, Green Day, or Red Hot Chili Peppers concerts, while the Brady is more suited for The Strokes, The White Stripes, or Amy Winehouse.  The Osage Events Center is better for Ted Nugent or KC and the Sunshine Band.  Cain's is in my opinion the most likely competitor with the Brady, as both have potential for hosting what concertgoers view as cutting edge-type events.  The obvious difference in marketability between Cain's and The Brady is the size of the two venues.  It would be of strategic management value for the owners of Cain's and The Brady to merge business interests to better focus on their target market and maximize the potential of event attraction.  Historic venues like Cain's or the Brady are often preferred by Indie rock and bluesie-rock musicians (markets that have been growing dramatically for the past few years).  Cain's open-floor arrangement is also ideal for punk rock, alt. rock, and metal concerts(events that garner lots of jumping, mosh pits, or headbanging).  I also would like to see regular theatrical and comedy productions at the Brady- it would lessen the dependence on concerts.

Anyway, that's just my take on this issue.  I sincerely hope the Brady's future can somehow be secured.

It's been awhile, but isn't Cain's standing only? Brady has two levels of seating and talked about a third.

[cannon_fodder]

Brady has BB King schedule for January;

Tue   10/23/07            The Doobie Brothers
Thu   10/25/07       Sammy Hagar & The Wabos
Tue   11/27/07       Deborah Harry
Sat   01/26/08       B.B. King


Someone scheduled him out that far, or there is some SNAFU.  I hope it does well for them!

[perspicuity85]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle
It's been awhile, but isn't Cain's standing only? Brady has two levels of seating and talked about a third.

Yes, Cain's is standing room only.

[PonderInc]

I'm pretty sure BB King is playing at the PAC, not the Brady.

[cannon_fodder]

Everything I saw pointed to the Brady:

http://www.pollstar.com/tour/searchall.pl?By=Venue&Content=Brady+Theatre&go_green.x=0&go_green.y=0

http://www.showtimetickets.com/eventInstance.do?method=load&id=820080

BUT!!!!  The venue has now been changed:

http://www.tulsapac.org/calendar.asp?id=504&task=display

Same date, same time... but at the PAC.

Not good news for the Brady for sure.

[FOTD]

Looks like it will be a few hit and miss shows in 08....few other changes until the city steps up, imo...

When will our city leaders realize the value in a simple redevelopment of the areas directly around the Cain's and on to The Old Lady?

2025? Way over the top. But hey now, we will be like a big city and attract young folks by having big acts ..... makes us act big. Meanwhile, the whistle will quit blowing and the train put it's breaks on....

[RecycleMichael]

Originally posted by FOTD

When will our city leaders realize the value in a simple redevelopment of the areas directly around the Cain's and on to The Old Lady?/quote]

But there has been a lot of work done in the area by city leaders in the area. I see new sidewalks and streetlamps all over near there.

I guess I don't understand what blame you want to put on city leaders.

[TheArtist]

Dont know if we can attract and suupport any big acts like other big cities. But as Dfest has shown us we dont have to do what others do and try to bring them here, we can create our own thing and have a blast. Perhaps someday Dfest will be what brings the big act that fills the new arena?