Rove Quits, Where's The End Zone Dance?

[Conan71]

Wow, can't believe it Karl "MC" Rove quits finally and not a single comment from the usual suspects.

[aoxamaxoa]

The little fat quiter!

I guess he will go write a book of lies portraying a picture of optimism from all the damage he's wrought.

a usual suspect

[rwarn17588]

I'm surprised he didn't get the boot after the 2006 elections.

He dispensed a lot of ill-considered optimism to Republicans beforehand. He kept insisting he had "the real math" that said the GOP would retain the House and Senate.

[cannon_fodder]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

I'm surprised he didn't get the boot after the 2006 elections.

He dispensed a lot of ill-considered optimism to Republicans beforehand. He kept insisting he had "the real math" that said the GOP would retain the House and Senate.

Hard to say how much of that he believed and how much was talk before the big game.  The political winds are blowing the other way (not necessarily democrat, but certainly against fundamentalist republicans) and so he made a wise decision to exit while he still has some power.  Its always better to leave on your terms than to be forced out, or worse - made irrelevant.

[guido911]

Does anyone honestly believe he is done? My take is he is merely getting ready to take on another presidential campaign. Interesting that his resignation takes effect just days of Thompson's decision date.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

Does anyone honestly believe he is done? My take is he is merely getting ready to take on another presidential campaign. Interesting that his resignation takes effect just days of Thompson's decision date.

Hmmmm. Interesting.

[rwarn17588]

I think he is done -- at least for a while.

Being on a president's staff for that long tends to wear you out. I think he's ready for a break.

I'm not sure he's going to sign on with any presidential campaign for 2008. He's under an ethical cloud with several ongoing investigations, and no one with any sense (please note caveat) wants a consultant who could get indicted in the middle of a campaign. I'm not saying he WILL be indicted, but it'd be foolish for a presidential hopeful to take that chance with someone who's that radioactive and who could mess everything up.

And Rove may sit this one out because the current crop of GOP candidates is pretty underwhelming. The GOP has a tough road to hoe in 2008 because the Iraq War, immigration and a few other issues are going badly. He got whupped pretty badly in 2006; he wouldn't want that to happen again in 2008.

[MichaelC]

I don't think anyone particularly cares that he quit.  And resigning at this point is typical, there's nothing unusual about it.  It's the way things work, it's not smart or stupid or anything.  It just is.  It doesn't change anything.  

The only people even paying attention this administration, are the ones that think the occassional new DOW high is somehow indicative of a good president, while kindly ignoring all evidence to the contrary.

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by MichaelC

I don't think anyone particularly cares that he quit.  And resigning at this point is typical, there's nothing unusual about it.  It's the way things work, it's not smart or stupid or anything.  It just is.  It doesn't change anything.  

The only people even paying attention this administration, are the ones that think the occassional new DOW high is somehow indicative of a good president, while kindly ignoring all evidence to the contrary.

Yeah...this economy just stinks to high heaven...[}:)]

If it weren't for tanking sub-prime lending (which the Fed has very little control over), there would be nothing for you to complain about...well, nothing for a reasonable person to complain about I should say.  But if you really believe that the economy is in such poooor shape, please, feel free to let us all know why.

[iplaw]

On a related note I found this to be mildly amusing.  Some "journalist" (Bill Plante) from CBS actually yelled out at a press conference today, "If he's so smart, how come you lost Congress?"  Wow...That sounds like a well balanced statement from a responsible journalist type now doesn't it?

Ever wonder why the faked Rather news stories weren't a surprise to anyone actually paying attention?

[MichaelC]

I'm not complaining, the actions or inaction of a president really don't bother me personally.  Not on an economic level anyway.  The economy does kind of stink.  There are tons of reasons for it, including the sub-prime deal.  But, I can make money out of stinky market.  I was very well positioned for this last tanking episode, and plan on cashing in on it.  I know people are hurting, but I ain't one of them.

All things being equal, with any sense of normalcy, the economy should occasionally hit records.  New records or new highs are not necessarily indicative of how good or bad the economy is.  Neither is a 1000 point DJIA free-fall.

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

I think he is done -- at least for a while.

Being on a president's staff for that long tends to wear you out. I think he's ready for a break.

Wow, how many presidential staffs have you been a part of?

[rwarn17588]

I don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. Look at history.

A whole slew of Bill Clinton's staff left during the second term.

Ditto for Reagan.

Ditto for Bush II.

Most of them, once they've been out of office for a while, cite burnout and fatigue. It's a high-pressure job.

[iplaw]

quote:But, I can make money out of stinky market.

At least we can agree on one thing!

[cannon_fodder]

Hey, and we can agree that a president's effect on the economy is usually over rated.  I guess they have some potential to really destroy a market, as well as a little leeway in propping one up... but in the long haul the president is not the deciding factor (nor, for the love of god, should he be!).