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Started by jamesrage, August 25, 2007, 09:22:08 PM

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jamesrage

August 25, 2007, 09:22:08 PM
Now this puts a smile on my face,only if other states would follow in Oklahoma's footsteps.



http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57313
Thousands of Hispanics have fled the Tulsa, Okla., area in the shadow of a looming state law that limits benefits and mandates deportation for illegal aliens, according to a report from KTUL television in Tulsa.

The state of Oklahoma recently approved a new law that requires deportation for illegal aliens who are arrested, and limits benefits and jobs to those individuals. The report said in East Tulsa, where a community of Hispanics has grown over recent years, there's been a sudden drop in population.

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The Republican who wrote HB 1804, Randy Terrill of Moore, said the plan doesn't discriminate, harass or single out anyone, unless they are breaking the law.

"This isn't about whether you are for or against immigration, or for or against immigrants. It doesn't matter what your skin color is or if you speak with an accent. What matters is if you are in the country legally or illegally. The only people threatened by House Bill 1804 are those who choose to break the law," he said.

It eliminates most taxpayer subsidies for illegal immigrants and allows state and local law enforcement officers to verify the residency status of those arrested. It also cracks down on business owners who employ illegal immigrants.
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USRufnex

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August 25, 2007, 09:55:05 PM
What you DON'T understand is that MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LEAVING EAST TULSA AND ALL PARTS OF TULSA ARE HERE LEGALLY!!!

You are breaking up FAMILIES.

I thought Tulsans and Oklahomans took great pride in calling themselves "family friendly."

When this country has refused to enforce its immigration laws for years and years... what do you expect?!?

What is a LEGAL US CITIZEN of hispanic descent supposed to say to family members in Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, etc. when uncle Oscar or cousin Jose comes here to make a better living, in search of a better life?  

"Stay home?"  Nope.  They will say "Stay away from Oklahoma."

And that will hurt this state in ways you right wing crazies will never understand.  These families aren't moving to Mexico... they'll move to Texas or Arkansas or Colorado or Kansas or New Mexico...

Too bad the right wingers refuse to listen to their own president's moderation on the illegal immigrant question.

It was bad enough to move to this state just before the November elections and watch bigoted advertisements showing CHILDREN dressed as "aliens" going to school... yeah, those brown-skinned kids who are here in our midst robbing good little white, anglo-saxon protestant kids of a proper public school education.  [xx(]

The Oklahoma Law taken on it's own merits is draconian in my view.  But in the view of Oklahoma and Tulsa's hard working, law-abiding hispanic families, it's unintended consequences will be institutional racism.  It's already happening...

Shameful.

***World Net Daily is one of the most amazingly one-sided, craptistic pieces of work I've ever had the displeasure of reading.

aoxamaxoa

#2
August 25, 2007, 10:50:03 PM
Snap USR!!!!Well said.

Gimme that ole time religion, state officials.

That report tonight was painful for those watching and fighting against hatred and intolerance. I felt the pain in the hispanic community seeing that story.

The report on the two legal immigrants who were held in the Tulsa jail for 4 days by ICE were direct results of racial profiling. Lawsuit pending. Rightfully so.


A pandoras box of backwater stink has been released and it's not Chamber of Commerce material.


jamesrage

#3
August 25, 2007, 11:15:48 PM
quote:
Originally posted by USRufnex

What you DON'T understand is that MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LEAVING EAST TULSA AND ALL PARTS OF TULSA ARE HERE LEGALLY!!!


If they are here legally then they would have nothing to fear from Oklahoma's laws.

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You are breaking up FAMILIES.

It's not my fault someone came here illegally,I want my country's laws enforced.



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I thought Tulsans and Oklahomans took great pride in calling themselves "family friendly."


We are also a state and city of laws and we do not appreciate people ****ting all over our immigration laws and other laws.


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What is a LEGAL US CITIZEN of hispanic descent supposed to say to family members in Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, etc. when uncle Oscar or cousin Jose comes here to make a better living, in search of a better life?


Screw uncle Oscar or cousin Jose if they want to come here illegal.If they want to make a better life for themselves here then they can do it legally like all the other immigrants who are here legally.

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And that will hurt this state in ways you right wing crazies will never understand. These families aren't moving to Mexico... they'll move to Texas or Arkansas or Colorado or Kansas or New Mexico...


It's not just people on the right who are sick of it 12-20 million people ****ting all over our immigration laws,the left is sick of it too.The left wants our immigration laws enforced too.The only ones who don't want our immigration laws enforced are illegals and pro-illegals scum.


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And that will hurt this state in ways you right wing crazies will never understand. These families aren't moving to Mexico... they'll move to Texas or Arkansas or Colorado or Kansas or New Mexico...


I am sure other states will enact laws similar to Oklahoma's once they get sick of illegals and hopefully the rats in office on a federal level will get a clue and start enforcing our immigration laws.


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Too bad the right wingers refuse to listen to their own president's moderation on the illegal immigrant question.


I don't call granting legal status to illegals and same old empty promises of enforcement a form of moderation.

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The Oklahoma Law taken on it's own merits is draconian in my view. But in the view of Oklahoma and Tulsa's hard working, law-abiding hispanic families,  


Illegals are not law abiding,if they were law abiding they would not be here illegally.If the families of illegals were law abiding too they would tell their law breaking relatives to go the **** back home.

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it's unintended consequences will be institutional racism. It's already happening...  


I find it amusing the same people who fraudulently use the race/xenophobe/Hispaniphobe/anti-immigratnt card are the same ones who lump immigrants and Americans of Hispanic decent in with illegals. If I was a immigrant or an American of Hispanic decent I would be ****en pissed every time some pro-illegals group masqueraded as some hispanic or immigrant group.This is why most people with common sense don't buy the BS claims of racism by illegals and pro-illegals.

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***World Net Daily is one of the most amazingly one-sided, craptistic pieces of work I've ever had the displeasure of reading.


World net daily got the story from KTUL channel 8,you would know that if you read World net like you claimed.So if you have problems with the story complain to channel 8.
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jamesrage

#4
August 25, 2007, 11:24:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by aoxamaxoa
That report tonight was painful for those watching and fighting against hatred and intolerance. I felt the pain in the hispanic community seeing that story.


Gee, I really disagree.Hatred and intolerance?The only intolerance is towards law breaking,which is what illegal immigration is.Most people do not have a problem with LEGAL IMMIGRANTS.Most people do not give a **** what color your skin is as long as you are here LEGALLY.The only people in the Hispanic community feeling any pain are those who are here illegally and those harboring criminals aka illegal aliens.

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The report on the two legal immigrants who were held in the Tulsa jail for 4 days by ICE were direct results of racial profiling. Lawsuit pending. Rightfully so.


No it was not a result of racial profiling, it was the direct result of someone not providing proof their legal status.
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USRufnex

#5
August 25, 2007, 11:43:13 PM
I really think you are angry and disagree with your position.

[:O]

jamesrage

#6
August 26, 2007, 12:29:40 AM
quote:
Originally posted by USRufnex

edited per above



I take it that you do not have anything good to counter what I said?
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rwarn17588

#7
August 26, 2007, 01:15:35 AM
Remember, folks, jamesrage is a parody of a deranged right-winger. Don't take his his comedic rhetoric seriously.

jamesrage

#8
August 26, 2007, 07:33:52 AM
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Originally posted by rwarn17588

Remember, folks, jamesrage is a parody of a deranged right-winger. Don't take his his comedic rhetoric seriously.


There is nothing comedic about my rhetoric nor am   I a parody of anyone.Most people across the country feel exactly the same way I do about illegal immigration.It is the pro-illegals and illegals who are the minority.
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A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those

aoxamaxoa

#9
August 26, 2007, 07:57:23 AM
quote:
Originally posted by jamesrage

quote:
Originally posted by aoxamaxoa
That report tonight was painful for those watching and fighting against hatred and intolerance. I felt the pain in the hispanic community seeing that story.


What a load of horse ****.Hatred and intolerance?The only intolerance is towards law breaking,which is what illegal immigration is.Most people do not have a problem with LEGAL IMMIGRANTS.Most people do not give a **** what color your skin is as long as you are here LEGALLY.The only people in the Hispanic community feeling any pain are those who are here illegally and those harboring criminals aka illegal aliens.

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The report on the two legal immigrants who were held in the Tulsa jail for 4 days by ICE were direct results of racial profiling. Lawsuit pending. Rightfully so.


No it was not a result of racial profiling, it was the direct result of someone not providing proof their legal status.


Law breaking is the cover for those who have been intolerant for years and now have their excuse to spew their venom.

aoxamaxoa

#10
August 26, 2007, 08:00:43 AM
quote:
Originally posted by jamesrage

quote:
Originally posted by aoxamaxoa
That report tonight was painful for those watching and fighting against hatred and intolerance. I felt the pain in the hispanic community seeing that story.


What a load of horse ****.Hatred and intolerance?The only intolerance is towards law breaking,which is what illegal immigration is.Most people do not have a problem with LEGAL IMMIGRANTS.Most people do not give a **** what color your skin is as long as you are here LEGALLY.The only people in the Hispanic community feeling any pain are those who are here illegally and those harboring criminals aka illegal aliens.

quote:
The report on the two legal immigrants who were held in the Tulsa jail for 4 days by ICE were direct results of racial profiling. Lawsuit pending. Rightfully so.


No it was not a result of racial profiling, it was the direct result of someone not providing proof their legal status.


Wrong. They provided the right info. However, there were 4 or 5 other's with the same name.
ICE refused to be flexible.

Lister

#11
August 26, 2007, 08:25:48 AM
So if you want the laws enforced you are a racist? Wow, this country has slid down in morals since the days of my youth.

jamesrage

#12
August 26, 2007, 08:38:32 AM
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Originally posted by aoxamaxoa


Law breaking is the cover for those who have been intolerant for years and now have their excuse to spew their venom.


Do you honestly believe those bogus accusations of hate and racism?Come on tell the truth.

People who against illegal immigration know those accusations are lies and only sad pathetic tactic by pro-illegals and illegals to try to continue violating anti-illegal laws. Since the accusations of racism and hatred are only lies then one has to wonder if the illegals and pro-illegals who spew those lies really believe them,of course there is the old saying that if you lie enough times you eventually believe it.
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A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those

jamesrage

#13
August 26, 2007, 08:40:55 AM
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Originally posted by Lister

So if you want the laws enforced you are a racist? Wow, this country has slid down in morals since the days of my youth.


Thats the lie the illegals and pro-illegals are trying to spew.
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A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those

waterboy

#14
August 26, 2007, 09:20:10 AM
James you seem to think that surrounding states are passing these laws for something other than pandering for votes. Do you think they will actually enforce them or merely sit back and reap the benefit of our well trained exitting workers? I think the latter.

As an example, when Kansas realizes economic gains from the hard working former OK residents, they will suddenly moderate their views and find the President's plan more acceptable. Remember that for many years after prohibition was reversed, except in OK, surrounding states reaped a bonanza of untaxed liqour sales at the border because of our good morals. When morality and economics collide the winner is $$.
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