Mandatory deportation has illegals on the run

[rwarn17588]

Nor did restored2x complain about the archaic term, "Stalinists."

[Chicken Little]

quote:Originally posted by jamesrage

Oh cry me a ****en river.It is the pro-illegals that got us into this situation and 20,000 of the poorest people in Tulsa can not be contributing much in sales tax revenue considering the fact that A. they are poor and B. the majority of it goes back to their home countries.If Tulsa really is dependent on sale tax revenue of illegals it is the fault of pro-illegals for tolerating criminals,not those who want our laws obeyed.

Way to duck the question, James.  I didn't ask you how much they contributed, I asked you if you were willing to pay for the losses when they leave.  Cowboy up and answer the question:  do you or do you not have a problem with raising taxes on yourself to offset the losses when these people leave for competing cities?

You can't blame a cash register for taking money.  To use your own words, you, as a citizen of Tulsa, are already "profiting" from transactions of illegal residents.  When they go, that money leaves, too.  I can't believe you haven't thought about the consequences of this vacuum you wish to create.  So, answer the question and tell us where you stand.

[Chicken Little]

quote:Originally posted by Breadburner

I'm talking about the illegals......

It wasn't illegal immigrants, but US citizens, that were being held in the Tulsa County Jail.

[jamesrage]

quote:Originally posted by Chicken Little

Way to duck the question, James.  I didn't ask you how much they contributed, I asked you if you were willing to pay for the losses when they leave.

If anyone is to pay for what ever losses there are if any, it is is the pro-illegals who tolerated them.I don't buy drug dealers a new home just because they lost theirs when they got busted.

quote: Cowboy up and answer the question:  do you or do you not have a problem with raising taxes on yourself to offset the losses when these people leave for competing cities?

We should have never had that revenue from illegals in the first place because we are not supposed to be tolerating illegals and those who employ them.

quote: You can't blame a cash register for taking money.  To use your own words, you, as a citizen of Tulsa, are already "profiting" from transactions of illegal residents.  When they go, that money leaves, too.  

What money?IS there a huge city tax on money wire transfers?Is it significantly much cheaper to school children of illegals than those of legal residents? Do rich people come here illegally? Most illegals live together tightly packed in single family homes which is a result of earning below minimum wage,you poll your money together so you can have more to spend and their children attend public school. Most illegals after paying their share of their bills and food send money back to their home country because most illegals are here to earn money.

quote: I can't believe you haven't thought about the consequences of this vacuum you wish to create.  

I thought about this issue a hell a whole lot more than you you have.I know solving the illegal immigration problem is not going to be cheap but ignoring it will only make it worse.
We solve part of the problem by cutting off benifits and jobs to illegals and deport their donkey.I am well aware that immoral people all across the country have directly profited off of illegal immigration by hiring illegals and housing them,**** them they are of no concern.


 

quote:    So, answer the question and tell us where you stand.

We need to suck it up and suffer what ever loses there might be.

[jamesrage]

quote:Originally posted by restored2x

I was in a discussion like this a few weeks ago that was shut down by the admin. There was actually less name-calling in that discussion.

Does it actually make a point more logical and acceptable if you call someone a racist? What a cheap way out of an intelligent conversation.

The only reason why bogus accusations of racism are thrown around is because pro-illegals do not have a leg to stand on and they figure they can scare people into submission with bogus accusations of racism.

[MichaelC]

quote:Originally posted by jamesrage

The only reason why bogus accusations of racism are thrown around is because pro-illegals do not have a leg to stand on and they figure they can scare people into submission with bogus accusations of racism.

I don't know who called who a racist.  I haven't seen it.  But it is typical some people to run and hide behind the notion.  personal attack removed

insult removed.  And I strongly support the use of special words for special people.  It's the only thing they understand.

[MichaelC]

I'm truly having too much fun.  So back to restored2x point about threads being snuffed out, if I'm funning the thread is in trouble.  Someone watches me like a hawk.

[restored2x]

Thanks for making my point for me.

[MichaelC]

quote:Originally posted by restored2x

Thanks for making my point for me.

personal attack removed

[Chicken Little]

quote:Originally posted by jamesrage

quote:Originally posted by Chicken Little

Way to duck the question, James.  I didn't ask you how much they contributed, I asked you if you were willing to pay for the losses when they leave.

If anyone is to pay for what ever losses there are if any, it is is the pro-illegals who tolerated them.I don't buy drug dealers a new home just because they lost theirs when they got busted.

Seems like my bible tells me that the righteous are rewarded in heaven.  On earth, you're just another person with a problem.  Just how do you propose to go about taxing the "lalegal lovers", or whatever you call them.

quote:

quote: Cowboy up and answer the question:  do you or do you not have a problem with raising taxes on yourself to offset the losses when these people leave for competing cities?

We should have never had that revenue from illegals in the first place because we are not supposed to be tolerating illegals and those who employ them.

Shoulda, coulda, woulda...what's done is done.  You're just as guilty as the next person for accepting money from them.  Moving forward, how do you think we should pay for the revenue loss when tens of thousands flee our City?

quote:

quote: You can't blame a cash register for taking money.  To use your own words, you, as a citizen of Tulsa, are already "profiting" from transactions of illegal residents.  When they go, that money leaves, too.  

What money?IS there a huge city tax on money wire transfers?Is it significantly much cheaper to school children of illegals than those of legal residents? Do rich people come here illegally? Most illegals live together tightly packed in single family homes which is a result of earning below minimum wage,you poll your money together so you can have more to spend and their children attend public school. Most illegals after paying their share of their bills and food send money back to their home country because most illegals are here to earn money.

 Tens of thousands of people.  They eat, they sleep, they live, work, and play here.  They'll be an economic backlash when your stupid plan is enacted.  Denial is a river, and you are way up it.

quote:

quote: I can't believe you haven't thought about the consequences of this vacuum you wish to create.  

I thought about this issue a hell a whole lot more than you you have.I know solving the illegal immigration problem is not going to be cheap but ignoring it will only make it worse.
We solve part of the problem by cutting off benifits and jobs to illegals and deport their donkey.I am well aware that immoral people all across the country have directly profited off of illegal immigration by hiring illegals and housing them,**** them they are of no concern.

No, James, I don't think you've thought about this enough.  If you had, you'd recognize that Tulsa and the State of Oklahoma will suffer, and the surrounding states will all benefit:  with new taxpayers, new workers, and new growth.  In the end, you won't have solved this country's immigration problems.  I just want to know what your game plan for the revenue loss is.

quote:

quote:So, answer the question and tell us where you stand.

We need to suck it up and suffer what ever loses there might be.

That's your plan?  

[Jamesrage impression]
Dear friend,
Sorry I screwed you over with a racist immigration reform plan, now all our neighbors are kicking our butts:  with booming populations, soaring revenues, and growing workforces.  Maybe you should suck it, because I'm not going to pay an extra dime for the problems I've caused with my dumb new laws.  Whatever...I blame somebody else...unions...or Norwegians...dirty whale hunters.  
Up Yours, Jamesrage
[/Jamesrage impression]

What are you, a teenager or a Republican?  Either way, that's the kind of talk you hear from people who don't take responsibility for their actions.

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[waterboy]

Yeah, Norwegians. I think we can lay this on them. They don't have an army do they? Dang socialist Norwegians. I can see the bumper sticker now..."Uff Da my arse!" []

[Lister]

Well, when it's all said and done, they are leaving and that's a good thing. It seems like many of you want illegals here to profit off their sweat without regard to the law. You keep talking about the economics of it all. If that's not taking advantage of a whole group of people then I don't know what is.

[Chicken Little]

quote:Originally posted by Lister

Well, when it's all said and done, they are leaving and that's a good thing. It seems like many of you want illegals here to profit off their sweat without regard to the law. You keep talking about the economics of it all. If that's not taking advantage of a whole group of people then I don't know what is.

Not what I'm saying at all, Lister.  I'd simply like to know if people like you are willing to pay a premium, i.e. more taxes, in order to fill the gap they leave after you chase them away.  How about it?  You ready to raise taxes on yourself?

[MichaelC]

Booooooooo, Mods, hissssssss!!!

It was somewhere around the point where restore2x tried to say that a jamesrage thread and "intelligent discussion" had some similarity that I snapped.  My bad.