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Tulsa Now Should Support Relocating TSAS Downtown

Started by Double A, September 03, 2007, 01:53:02 PM

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Double A

I just happen to believe that educating Tulsa Public School Students to that already proven degree of excellence will be a much better draw to revitalize downtown and attract new residents for a whole lot less money, by relocating TSAS downtown. I can't help but ask why a term limited ultra right wing conservative who has consistently voted against the arts and the conservative godfather of unconstitutional workers comp deform and advocate for the illegal Great Plains/BOK loan repayment scheme would be pushing a publicly funded pork barrel arts boarding school?
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pfox

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Originally posted by Double A

I just happen to believe that educating Tulsa Public School Students to that already proven degree of excellence will be a much better draw to revitalize downtown and attract new residents for a whole lot less money, by relocating TSAS downtown. I can't help but ask why a term limited ultra right wing conservative who has consistently voted against the arts and the conservative godfather of unconstitutional workers comp deform and advocate for the illegal Great Plains/BOK loan repayment scheme would be pushing a publicly funded pork barrel arts boarding school?



Wow.
"Our uniqueness is overshadowed by our inability to be unique."

sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by Double A

I just happen to believe that educating Tulsa Public School Students to that already proven degree of excellence will be a much better draw to revitalize downtown and attract new residents for a whole lot less money, by relocating TSAS downtown. I can't help but ask why a term limited ultra right wing conservative who has consistently voted against the arts and the conservative godfather of unconstitutional workers comp deform and advocate for the illegal Great Plains/BOK loan repayment scheme would be pushing a publicly funded pork barrel arts boarding school?



Breath dude, breath.

Double A

The TSAS event of the season is only two weeks away.  Tickets are on sale
now for Thursday, November 8th.  We are having this event at the Historic
Jazz Depot, located at 5 S Boston, Just off of first street.

The event starts at 6:30 with a silent auction and performances by the
orchestra and Jazz combo.  Delicious desserts from local vendors will be
served as well as coffee from our friends at Starbucks.  At 7:30 the
combined choir and music theater classes will perform a condensed version of
Anything Goes with help from the jazz band and orchestra.  Finally the TSAS
Jazz A will finish the night with a few of your jazz favorites.

Tickets can be purchased at the TSAS front desk and soon online at the Jazz
Hall of Fame's Website.  All tickets are $10.

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perspicuity85

Besides guesswork, is there a way to determine whether or not the two schools can complement each other?


TheArtist

My first thought is that it would be fine to have 2 similar schools in Tulsa. The more the better actually. However the main point to me, if what doubleA says is true, is that TSAS spends 5,000 per student and does a good job, now this new proposal is a school that will spend 27,000 per student. Now I am not against spending more on our students, IF the results are better. But if TSAS is managing quite well for 5,000 per student, 27,000 seems awfully high.  I would rather see the TSAS program expanded. Its program would be able to serve 5 times more students with the same amount of money this new program would.  

Is that 27,000 per student the yearly quota per student? Or does it also include the amount of building a new facility, etc.? As in start up costs for a new school will cost more but after that the average yearly payment per student will not be as much.
"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

RecycleMichael

We have friends with a daughter who goes to TSAS. They are so sold and think it is the best school the child has ever attended.

The day is so different than traditional school that it has captured her fancy. She used to hate school and was bored, now she wants to learn as much as possible and looks forward to every school day.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Rico

Whom would be the individual that would make the decision to place the TSAS in the Downtown area.?


Double A

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Whom would be the individual that would make the decision to place the TSAS in the Downtown area.?





TSAS has a board of directors, a director, and an organization of parents and teachers on the TSAS side. The sponsor of the TSAS charter is TPS, so the school board might have some say. Getting a building downtown would require help from the city(Council, Mayor, TDA, etc.). The best way to support TSAS right now is to buy a ticket to the show, charter schools like many other public schools, have to fund raise to fill in the funding gaps.
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SXSW

I thought this was an interesting article about TSAS and its selectivity.  It would make a great addition to downtown where they could possibly expand beyond 75 students per grade.

TULSA -- Its test scores are some of the best in the city.  But getting into this local charter school has nothing to do with grades, just the luck of the draw.

An envelope full of names and dozens of high school hopes on the line.

This is how you get into one of Tulsa's top high schools, the Tulsa School of Arts and Sciences. TSAS, as it's called, is Taylor Dayton's first and really only choice.

"This seems to be a really good school," she said.

"Yeah, if we don't get in here, we'll be moving out of the Tulsa area," Jody Dayton, Taylor's mother, said.  "She won't go to Tulsa public high."

They call it a lottery because it's all a matter of luck. There's no required GPA or test score, just your name on a slip of green paper.

There are 75 slots in TSAS's freshman class. That means some of these teenagers won't make it.

With every name, there's a wish fulfilled and a hope dashed.  Mothers can go from worried to excited in a matter of moments.

A big hug and thumbs up from one lucky winner, while Taylor keeps betting on just one more name.

Number 74 comes and goes and no Taylor. It's now down to the final slot.

A Taylor is called, just not Taylor Dayton. Taylor Black is admitted.

"I couldn't believe that they called her name. I just had a feeling that they were going to call her name. And it was the last name," Allyson Black, Taylor's mother, said.

"I was really excited when they drew my name. I didn't realize they were only drawing 75," Taylor Black said.

Meanwhile, Taylor Dayton is put on a waiting list.

"I think her heart dropped. She sat here and watched the current students. And she said 'They are so me. I am so them. I so fit.'  So, we'll see.  We'll cross our fingers," Jody Dayton said.

TSAS's Principal Eric Doss says he wished they could take everyone, but the school is capped at 275 students.

Several TPS schools have admissions lotteries like Thoreau Middle School and Mayo Demonstration Academy.

http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?s=14080377