Riverwalk Phase II

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by sauerkraut

I worked as a dishwasher at an AppleBee's in Cincinatti long ago and the total number of employees was something like 20-(25 max)... Wal-Greens employes something like 10 people everytime I go into that store I only see about 4 employees, then when you account for weekend shifts and part time workers I can't see any more than about 10 employees I don't see how they get those numbers.

Cheesecake factory employs 200.

If an applebees takes something like 20-25 per shift to run the store. Since very few work all day or everyday, you have about 60-75 people actually employed.

When I've gone to walgreens I have seen 6 in the pharmacy area, 3 in the photo center, 1 or 2 at the register and another 2-3 floaters. That doesn't count stocking or cleaning area. Assuming that the loss of employees during the later shifts is offset by stockers and cleaners, that is like 13 people working there at a time. That would be 55 people if everyone worked 40hrs.

[TheArtist]

9000 people working on the dams, trails, bridges, parks, piers, living river, lighting, restaurants, downtown connector, etc. etc. Not permanent jobs, the permanent jobs is the smaller number, I think it was around 600 for that.

[TheArtist]

9000 people working on the dams, trails, bridges, parks, piers, living river, lighting, restaurants, downtown connector, etc. etc. Not permanent jobs, the permanent jobs is the smaller number, I think it was around 600 for that. And that has nothing to do with the Riverwalk.

[cannon_fodder]

the 9000 they are loudly touting in commercials is retarded then.  lets make a million jobs by taking my money and giving it to other people to construct things... great economic sense as those workers head back to their homes when its done.

If thats really where the 9000 jobs comes from, they are being VERY misleading in that regaurd.

[swake]

Phase 2 of Riverwalk Crossing is now finally under construction:

http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0108/486661.html

The final plans include more retail, 207 apartments and 50 condos.

I also read in one of the Jenks weeklies that the River District is going to start earth work in 60 days and the plan is so good and has such a national buzz that it has been chosen to be featured on the cover of the national shopping center trade magazine in the next couple of months. OTA may even be building the River District it's own turnpike exit on the Creek Turnpike right next to the Aquarium (that Tulsa didn't want).

www.riverdistrict.tv
www.riverwalkcrossing.com

So tell me, how's all that new river development coming in Tulsa in light of the river vote? Is "Tulsa Landing" about to break ground? Many of the "no" votes said that the Branson Landing people would come no matter what the vote's outcome was, how's that working out? I was told I was full of crap over the whole expanding the tax base thing and needing to compete with all the development in Jenks. Was I? Does that 50 cents a week you saved by voting no feel good in your wallet? Wait, change doesn't go in a wallet, does it feel good in your pocket? I'm glad the roads in Tulsa are so much better now with the no vote.

[jackbristow]

quote:Originally posted by swake

Phase 2 of Riverwalk Crossing is now finally under construction:

http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0108/486661.html

The final plans include more retail, 207 apartments and 50 condos.

I also read in one of the Jenks weeklies that the River District is going to start earth work in 60 days and the plan is so good and has such a national buzz that it has been chosen to be featured on the cover of the national shopping center trade magazine in the next couple of months. OTA may even be building the River District it's own turnpike exit on the Creek Turnpike right next to the Aquarium (that Tulsa didn't want).

www.riverdistrict.tv
www.riverwalkcrossing.com

So tell me, how's all that new river development coming in Tulsa in light of the river vote? Is "Tulsa Landing" about to break ground? Many of the "no" votes said that the Branson Landing people would come no matter what the vote's outcome was, how's that working out? I was told I was full of crap over the whole expanding the tax base thing and needing to compete with all the development in Jenks. Was I? Does that 50 cents a week you saved by voting no feel good in your wallet? Wait, change doesn't go in a wallet, does it feel good in your pocket? I'm glad the roads in Tulsa are so much better now with the no vote.

Yep, nothing gets done if it never gets started.  Tulsa is dying more every day.  How long do they think they can keep waiting for something better?  It's been put off for 30 years or more!

[TheArtist]

I saw nothing in those articles that said Riverwalk Phase II was now under construction? We have been hearing that for quite a while now. They keep "announcing" things in the media, then nothning happens. That news article wasnt even an announcement per say. Just a rehash of old news. The only thing they said in relation to construction was  "And, just north of the current strip, there are plans for 207 apartments, 50 condos and brand new retail." There have been plans for years now.  

So where did you get this swake...."Phase 2 of Riverwalk Crossing is now finally under construction:"

[swake]

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

I saw nothing in those articles that said Riverwalk Phase II was now under construction? We have been hearing that for quite a while now. They keep "announcing" things in the media, then nothning happens. That news article wasnt even an announcement per say. Just a rehash of old news. The only thing they said in relation to construction was  "And, just north of the current strip, there are plans for 207 apartments, 50 condos and brand new retail." There have been plans for years now.  

So where did you get this swake...."Phase 2 of Riverwalk Crossing is now finally under construction:"

I watched the actual news story this morning on KTUL and they showed the equipment and such onsite getting going, finally.

[TheArtist]

Well I sure hope so. Hope I didnt come off as sounding frustrated with you or anything you posted. Was just starting to get frustrated that I had seen so many stories that he was going to start. They shuffle some dirt around for the camera. Then things sit there until the next "breaking news" story. It was starting to sound like Bells, their remodeling plans and or new rollercoaster lol. Eeevery spring the cameras were there and we saw pics of pretty drawings. All we got was more rust.

I am excited to see the new Riverwalk expansion go ahead. Its going to be about a year till we get to see any actual building at the River District.

[safetyguy]

Whatever happened to announcing the retailers coming? They acted like when they first announced that it wouldn't be too long before they announced some of the new retailers to occupy the space.

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by swake

Phase 2 of Riverwalk Crossing is now finally under construction:

http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0108/486661.html

The final plans include more retail, 207 apartments and 50 condos.

I also read in one of the Jenks weeklies that the River District is going to start earth work in 60 days and the plan is so good and has such a national buzz that it has been chosen to be featured on the cover of the national shopping center trade magazine in the next couple of months. OTA may even be building the River District it's own turnpike exit on the Creek Turnpike right next to the Aquarium (that Tulsa didn't want).

www.riverdistrict.tv
www.riverwalkcrossing.com

So tell me, how's all that new river development coming in Tulsa in light of the river vote? Is "Tulsa Landing" about to break ground? Many of the "no" votes said that the Branson Landing people would come no matter what the vote's outcome was, how's that working out? I was told I was full of crap over the whole expanding the tax base thing and needing to compete with all the development in Jenks. Was I? Does that 50 cents a week you saved by voting no feel good in your wallet? Wait, change doesn't go in a wallet, does it feel good in your pocket? I'm glad the roads in Tulsa are so much better now with the no vote.

Shameful OTA! Corporate welfare....

You assume this is successful but time will tell.....

[swake]

quote:Originally posted by safetyguy

Whatever happened to announcing the retailers coming? They acted like when they first announced that it wouldn't be too long before they announced some of the new retailers to occupy the space.

I bet with The River District coming they are going to struggle with retailers, at least good ones.

My guess is that the Riverwalk will become more and more of a bar district with retail driven by that kind of crowd.

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by swake

quote:Originally posted by safetyguy

Whatever happened to announcing the retailers coming? They acted like when they first announced that it wouldn't be too long before they announced some of the new retailers to occupy the space.

I bet with The River District coming they are going to struggle with retailers, at least good ones.

My guess is that the Riverwalk will become more and more of a bar district with retail driven by that kind of crowd.

SUPER! More bar districts! WHOOPPPEEE!!! Alcohol has proven to be such a great drug for society.

Using the money from TIF, I see the day coming where a sizable portion is used for bribing Nordstroms....but it may eat into the other infrastructure costs.

Maybe Lynn Mitchell can convert some of his welfare funds into a new NSL franchise and build a new soccer stadium too!

And Jerry Gordon's banks can maybe tap into the TIF to save their bee hinds.....

[swake]

quote:Originally posted by inteller

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

quote:Originally posted by swake

quote:Originally posted by safetyguy

Whatever happened to announcing the retailers coming? They acted like when they first announced that it wouldn't be too long before they announced some of the new retailers to occupy the space.

I bet with The River District coming they are going to struggle with retailers, at least good ones.

My guess is that the Riverwalk will become more and more of a bar district with retail driven by that kind of crowd.

SUPER! More bar districts! WHOOPPPEEE!!! Alcohol has proven to be such a great drug for society.

Using the money from TIF, I see the day coming where a sizable portion is used for bribing Nordstroms....but it may eat into the other infrastructure costs.

Maybe Lynn Mitchell can convert some of his welfare funds into a new NSL franchise and build a new soccer stadium too!

And Jerry Gordon's banks can maybe tap into the TIF to save their bee hinds.....

Keep crying in your (non alcoholic) beer, then maybe Tulsa can have a lake downtown for people to visit and talk about how smug they are and smell their own farts.

Oh let up on old FOTD, he's just bitter his drug (herb) of choice isn't legal.

[joiei]

Somehow, I just do not see Riverwalk as being upscale enough for a Nordstroms.  The only place in town that might even be close is Utica Square and I do not see that happening there either.  You have to have a high income neighborhood for there to be a Nordstroms.  I could be wrong though.