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Ken Busby as Debate IMPARTIAL Moderator??

Started by Friendly Bear, September 14, 2007, 08:00:33 AM

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Friendly Bear

Tulsa Now is sponsoring a "debate" between the Kaiser River Tax campaign and the No River Tax Campaign on Tuesday, Sept. 18.

Mr. Ken Busby, Executive Director of the Arts and Humanities Council of Tulsa, will be the Moderator.

If a debate moderator shows overt signs of bias, should he be replaced?

Mr. Busby has TWO Our River Yes campaign signs planted in his south Tulsa yard.....

Isn't this overt BIAS??

[:O]

sgrizzle

He's not choosing a winner. If you can find someone not pre-decided on the issue, then you're going to find someone who likely doesn't know enough about the issues to moderate.

Friendly Bear

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Originally posted by sgrizzle

He's not choosing a winner. If you can find someone not pre-decided on the issue, then you're going to find someone who likely doesn't know enough about the issues to moderate.



Well, if a "debate" moderator is already a PUBLIC advocate for one side of the debate, isn't that pretty strong EVIDENCE that he's pre-disposed to FAVOR that side??

A BIASED debate moderator has incredible leverage to ask easy, pre-arranged softball-type questions of the side he/she favors, while asking brutal, "When-did-you-stop-beating-your-wife?" type attack questions against the opposing side......


sgrizzle

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Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

He's not choosing a winner. If you can find someone not pre-decided on the issue, then you're going to find someone who likely doesn't know enough about the issues to moderate.



Well, if a "debate" moderator is already a PUBLIC advocate for one side of the debate, isn't that pretty strong EVIDENCE that he's pre-disposed to FAVOR that side??

A BIASED debate moderator has incredible leverage to ask easy, pre-arranged softball-type questions of the side he/she favors, while asking brutal, "When-did-you-stop-beating-your-wife?" type attack questions against the opposing side......





The moderator is acting a announcer/narrarator only. Questions are presubmitted by the general public and drawn at random. He can look scorningly at one side, but that's about it.

Wilbur

I've known Ken Busby for several years.  He'll understand his role as moderator and do just fine.

sgrizzle

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Originally posted by Wilbur

I've known Ken Busby for several years.  He'll understand his role as moderator and do just fine.



Wilbur will pistol-whip him otherwise.

Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by Wilbur

I've known Ken Busby for several years.  He'll understand his role as moderator and do just fine.



It is understood quite well that he has TWO Our River Yes campaign signs out in the front yard.

His bias is already apparent.  He's made up his mind.  He's not neutral.

In the interests of fairness, which has not been a hall-mark of the Vote Yes Cabal, the Moderator should be changed to a NEUTRAL party, that's not part of the Favors-Trading Network of connected cronies.






RecycleMichael

I think he will be a fine moderator. He is very professional and used to dealing with odd people like artists. The TulsaNow board is comprised of people on both the yes and no side of this issue. Any of us would have a slant to one side. This is a debate put on by TulsaNow and it follows the rules set up by them. Ken Busby was the best choice from the board of directors.

This is going to be a good debate on the issues with passionate people on both sides.

I am so glad that TulsaNow is doing this. Up until now, everything else has either been a pro-yes presentation or a vote no rally. This will be the first and maybe only real debate.

This is a positive thing for Tulsa and completely the perfect role for a group like TulsaNow. This is a good thing.

I knew that friendly bear would find something to complain about. No matter how good something is, he will wine and try to make up some controversy. He is the only bear I know that tries to put out his own traps.
Power is nothing till you use it.

sgrizzle

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Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by Wilbur

I've known Ken Busby for several years.  He'll understand his role as moderator and do just fine.



It is understood quite well that he has TWO Our River Yes campaign signs out in the front yard.

His bias is already apparent.  He's made up his mind.  He's not neutral.

In the interests of fairness, which has not been a hall-mark of the Vote Yes Cabal, the Moderator should be changed to a NEUTRAL party, that's not part of the Favors-Trading Network of connected cronies.



Well you couldn't be moderator either by your standards. Can't say I've seen a single political debate with a moderator that fits your standards either.

Conan71

The moderator is there to do nothing more than keep the debate on track, monitor alotted time to the speaker, and present the questions.  He doesn't have any impact on the outcome.  Friendly Bear, if you want to have an impact or learn more about it, then go to the forum.  Audience member's questions can have more of an impact than the moderator.

I think it's great TN is involved in it.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Friendly Bear

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Originally posted by recyclemichael

I think he will be a fine moderator. He is very professional and used to dealing with odd people like artists. The TulsaNow board is comprised of people on both the yes and no side of this issue. Any of us would have a slant to one side. This is a debate put on by TulsaNow and it follows the rules set up by them. Ken Busby was the best choice from the board of directors.

This is going to be a good debate on the issues with passionate people on both sides.

I am so glad that TulsaNow is doing this. Up until now, everything else has either been a pro-yes presentation or a vote no rally. This will be the first and maybe only real debate.

This is a positive thing for Tulsa and completely the perfect role for a group like TulsaNow. This is a good thing.

I knew that friendly bear would find something to complain about. No matter how good something is, he will wine and try to make up some controversy. He is the only bear I know that tries to put out his own traps.



And, Busby's already BIASED.

The SIGNS are there to PROVE IT.

Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael

I think he will be a fine moderator. He is very professional and used to dealing with odd people like artists. The TulsaNow board is comprised of people on both the yes and no side of this issue. Any of us would have a slant to one side. This is a debate put on by TulsaNow and it follows the rules set up by them. Ken Busby was the best choice from the board of directors.

This is going to be a good debate on the issues with passionate people on both sides.

I am so glad that TulsaNow is doing this. Up until now, everything else has either been a pro-yes presentation or a vote no rally. This will be the first and maybe only real debate.

This is a positive thing for Tulsa and completely the perfect role for a group like TulsaNow. This is a good thing.

I knew that friendly bear would find something to complain about. No matter how good something is, he will wine and try to make up some controversy. He is the only bear I know that tries to put out his own traps.



Commenting about a "moderator" that has two VOTE YES sings sunk into his front yard is pointing out the BIAS of the Moderator.

By definition, a "moderator" is intended to be neutral in all respects to the debate.

Your moderator has already shown his bias.

In the interests of fairness, that at least DISQUALIFIES him to be the moderator.


Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

The moderator is there to do nothing more than keep the debate on track, monitor alotted time to the speaker, and present the questions.  He doesn't have any impact on the outcome.  Friendly Bear, if you want to have an impact or learn more about it, then go to the forum.  Audience member's questions can have more of an impact than the moderator.

I think it's great TN is involved in it.



Let's just imagine how Mr. Biased Busby will ask those questions from the audience.

Uh, here's an easy one, I'll ask this easy one of my Vote Yes Friends:  

Tell us why a Vote Yes is "For the Children".....

Uh, here's a real hard one; think I'll throw this hardball at the Vote NO Meanies.

Question for Vote No Meanies:  Why do you HATE Tulsa's Children so much?

RecycleMichael

Some survey published last month said that only nine percent of the people were undecided on this issue.

You think we should only allow people in that nine percent to moderate?

Why don't you give him a chance?

(I bet he doen't use the word "meanies").
Power is nothing till you use it.

rwarn17588

Better find some other issue to get outraged about, F.B.

This one isn't getting any traction.