Why are Church Leaders silent on the River Tax?

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by Vision 2025

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by bokworker

Except for that pesky would/could definitional thing about the yard sign....You know, a sign "could" be placed in your yard (which is the way it read) vs. a sign "would" be placed in your yard.... d*mn word parsing.

Thought that after Oil Capital flaying, you'd be the one to avoid word parsing on this subject.

The fact, to educate those unenlighted to this previous topic and to help them understand how things work in the Banana Republic of Tulsa, your bank executive management the during Vision 2025 campaign, informed employees:

--That the bank supported Vision 2025;  CORRECT?

--That a Vote Yes sign WOULD be placed in the Employees yard for those residing in Tulsa County; CORRECT? and,

--That if an employee did NOT want a Vote YES sign placed in their yard, they could click an OPT-OUT button.  CORRECT?

Uh-huh, just click that OPT-OUT button right after being told that executive management supported the new Tax.  CORRECT?

I HOPE that clarifies things.

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It clarifies that you seem obsessed with living in the past.

The past frequenty foretells the future.

Regarding the past unethical employee coercion practices of certain bank executive management, maybe the past is repeating itself.

What are they serving for lunch downtown, lieburgers?

But, there are an awful lot of Vote YES yard signs scattered through the neighborhoods.

I wonder if the TPS employees union is trading favors with the Citizens for Tulsa County to provide TPS employee addresses for placement of Our River Yes yard signs?

In exchange for Citizens for Tulsa supporting the next TPS Bond election?

Is that genuine support, of merely favors-trading with the rest of us paying the bill.......?

[RecycleMichael]

I don't know if you are a polar bear, a grizzly bear or a sloth bear but you can imagine which one I think you are.

You know nothing of our volunteer effort. We don't just work weekends and we don't just pick up "no" signs.

Since others are being nice to you with avatars and such, I thought I would give you a bear joke...

This bear and this rabbit were talking.
The bear asked the rabbit, "Do you have trouble with poop sticking to your fur?"

The rabbit said, "No."

So the bear picked up the rabbit and used it to wipe his butt.

[RecycleMichael]

More bear jokes...

A couple of hunters from Prague are out hunting, and an emormous bear runs up and in a single gulp devours one of the hunters. Miraculously, the swallowed hunter remained alive, trapped in the belly of the grizzly.
The other hunter runs back to town and organizes a rescue party which heads back to the woods armed with torches, guns, spears, etc.

Soon they spot two bears on the horizon and everybody starts shooting at the bear that's closest to them.

"No, not that one," shouts the surviving hunter, "That's the female."

"The Czech is in the male."

and this one...

One day a baby polar bear approaches his mother with a confused expression on his face and says, "Mom? Am I a polar bear?"
"Well of course son!"

The cub replied, "You're sure I'm not a panda bear or a black bear?"

"No, of course not. Now run outside and play."

But the baby polar bear is still confused so he approaches his father.

The cub asks, "Dad, am I a polar bear?"

"Why of course son!" the papa polar bear gruffly replies.

The cub continues, "I don't have any grizzly bear or Koala bear in my bloodlines?"

"No son. I'm a polar bear, your mother is a polar bear, and by god you too are one hundred percent purebred polar bear!! Why in the world do you ask?"

"Because I'm freezing my BUTT off!!"

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

I don't know if you are a polar bear, a grizzly bear or a sloth bear but you can imagine which one I think you are.

You know nothing of our volunteer effort. We don't just work weekends and we don't just pick up "no" signs.

Since others are being nice to you with avatars and such, I thought I would give you a bear joke...

This bear and this rabbit were talking.
The bear asked the rabbit, "Do you have trouble with poop sticking to your fur?"

The rabbit said, "No."

So the bear picked up the rabbit and used it to wipe his butt.

That's a funny one.

Back on Topic, which is getting a lot of interest, and we had some really good interaction regarding Bledsoe, et al on the MORAL implications of supporting a Regressive Sales Tax Increase, the legality of church involvement in election issues, and the silence of our local church leaders thereof on the Kaiser River Tax issue, would any of our legions of poster or lurkers care to opine, and move us back on topic??

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

More bear jokes...

A couple of hunters from Prague are out hunting, and an emormous bear runs up and in a single gulp devours one of the hunters. Miraculously, the swallowed hunter remained alive, trapped in the belly of the grizzly.
The other hunter runs back to town and organizes a rescue party which heads back to the woods armed with torches, guns, spears, etc.

Soon they spot two bears on the horizon and everybody starts shooting at the bear that's closest to them.

"No, not that one," shouts the surviving hunter, "That's the female."

"The Czech is in the male."

and this one...

One day a baby polar bear approaches his mother with a confused expression on his face and says, "Mom? Am I a polar bear?"
"Well of course son!"

The cub replied, "You're sure I'm not a panda bear or a black bear?"

"No, of course not. Now run outside and play."

But the baby polar bear is still confused so he approaches his father.

The cub asks, "Dad, am I a polar bear?"

"Why of course son!" the papa polar bear gruffly replies.

The cub continues, "I don't have any grizzly bear or Koala bear in my bloodlines?"

"No son. I'm a polar bear, your mother is a polar bear, and by god you too are one hundred percent purebred polar bear!! Why in the world do you ask?"

"Because I'm freezing my BUTT off!!"

RecycleMichael is drifting dangerous close to transforming into Floyd's dreaded TROLL.

When I ASKED, in another topic, that if as reported that the Creek Nation reneges on their $5 million pledge for River Development, would that make them Indian Givers, Swake called it racist.

What is a person that hates bears?  It can't be called racist, because bears are not a race.  We're a species.  

Specious?

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by swake

Most of the signs I see that are "no" are in rights of way, most of the "yes" signs are in yards.  

And this yard stealing complaint makes no sense, why would someone from the yes campaign steal the signs out of yards and leave the ones all over town in the rights of way, where people actually see them?

Stealing a sign from someone's yard is a indication of anger and/or desperation. And all the anger and emotion on this issue that I have seen is on the "no" side of the fence.



I think some people may be fibbing....

Really?  I haven't heard about Yes signs disappearing from yards.  I do think a vast "conspiracy" about a roving band of desperate "yessies" stealing signs is over-blown.  Not saying it hasn't happened, I just don't believe there is a concerted effort at sign stealing.

There are three vote no signs just down the block from one of the F & M branches.  If you believe a lot of the conspiracy crap being spread, you'd think those would have been mowed down already by mean-spirited F & M employees on their lunch break. []

[rwarn17588]

Does a bear sh*t in the woods?

If so, offer it some toilet paper.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by swake

Most of the signs I see that are "no" are in rights of way, most of the "yes" signs are in yards.  

And this yard stealing complaint makes no sense, why would someone from the yes campaign steal the signs out of yards and leave the ones all over town in the rights of way, where people actually see them?

Stealing a sign from someone's yard is a indication of anger and/or desperation. And all the anger and emotion on this issue that I have seen is on the "no" side of the fence.



I think some people may be fibbing....

Really?  I haven't heard about Yes signs disappearing from yards.  I do think a vast "conspiracy" about a roving band of desperate "yessies" stealing signs is over-blown.  Not saying it hasn't happened, I just don't believe there is a concerted effort at sign stealing.

There are three vote no signs just down the block from one of the F & M branches.  If you believe a lot of the conspiracy crap being spread, you'd think those would have been mowed down already by mean-spirited F & M employees on their lunch break. []

Night attacks on Vote NO signs are their preferred silencing Stategy.  Otherwise, too many witnesses.......Otherwise,

Tonite, New on 6 reports with Eye-witness video of Vote NO signs vacumned from residential yards by Vote YES supporters?  

BAD publicity.

Daytime sign attacks are exclusively reserved for City of Tulsa Publik Werkes Dept., Sign Enforcement unit, and RecycleMichaels Pattonly Potential-Road-Kill Platoon.

Platoon motto:  

Help beautify Tulsa by stepping in front of a speeding Fire Truck.

Ouch!

[]

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

Does a bear sh*t in the woods?

If so, offer it some toilet paper.

Leaves are preferred.  

More organic.

Kinder to the environment.  

Rougher on the softer parts.

[waterboy]

Okay, now I'm incensed. Just saw a schnauzer hike his leg on my Vote Yes sign! As everyone knows, only the rich, tax loving vampire types own this breed. What a great pic that would have made.

I drive all over the South Tulsa area from Jenks to Memorial, 71st to 121st. For the last month, it was packed with illegally planted Vote No signs at entrances to 169, Creek Expwy and Memorial as well as the entrances to the "oh so nice" hoods. Lately there has been a change. The illegal plantings of No's is now joined by the Yes's!! Right next to each other! The hoods are showing more and more yes's as well. This could be a horse race afterall.

For such a serious guy Bear, you make silly claims. Channel Six will welcome the silliness as that's in their mission statement.[]

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

Okay, now I'm incensed. Just saw a schnauzer hike his leg on my Vote Yes sign! As everyone knows, only the rich, tax loving vampire types own this breed. What a great pic that would have made.

I drive all over the South Tulsa area from Jenks to Memorial, 71st to 121st. For the last month, it was packed with illegally planted Vote No signs at entrances to 169, Creek Expwy and Memorial as well as the entrances to the "oh so nice" hoods. Lately there has been a change. The illegal plantings of No's is now joined by the Yes's!! Right next to each other! The hoods are showing more and more yes's as well. This could be a horse race afterall.

For such a serious guy Bear, you make silly claims. Channel Six will welcome the silliness as that's in their mission statement.[]

GOOD doggy!

Drink some more water.....

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

Okay, now I'm incensed. Just saw a schnauzer hike his leg on my Vote Yes sign! As everyone knows, only the rich, tax loving vampire types own this breed. What a great pic that would have made.

I drive all over the South Tulsa area from Jenks to Memorial, 71st to 121st. For the last month, it was packed with illegally planted Vote No signs at entrances to 169, Creek Expwy and Memorial as well as the entrances to the "oh so nice" hoods. Lately there has been a change. The illegal plantings of No's is now joined by the Yes's!! Right next to each other! The hoods are showing more and more yes's as well. This could be a horse race afterall.

For such a serious guy Bear, you make silly claims. Channel Six will welcome the silliness as that's in their mission statement.[]

Sorry Waterboy, my schnauzer is really against this tax.  I ask him not to deface signs, but he's just very, very adamant... and a poor sport. []

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

Okay, now I'm incensed. Just saw a schnauzer hike his leg on my Vote Yes sign! As everyone knows, only the rich, tax loving vampire types own this breed. What a great pic that would have made.

I drive all over the South Tulsa area from Jenks to Memorial, 71st to 121st. For the last month, it was packed with illegally planted Vote No signs at entrances to 169, Creek Expwy and Memorial as well as the entrances to the "oh so nice" hoods. Lately there has been a change. The illegal plantings of No's is now joined by the Yes's!! Right next to each other! The hoods are showing more and more yes's as well. This could be a horse race afterall.

For such a serious guy Bear, you make silly claims. Channel Six will welcome the silliness as that's in their mission statement.[]

Sorry Waterboy, my schnauzer is really against this tax.  I ask him not to deface signs, but he's just very, very adamant... and a poor sport. []

Waterboy could ELECTRIFY his Vote Yes Sign.

That would break Fido of his bad habit.

[]

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

Okay, now I'm incensed. Just saw a schnauzer hike his leg on my Vote Yes sign! As everyone knows, only the rich, tax loving vampire types own this breed. What a great pic that would have made.

I drive all over the South Tulsa area from Jenks to Memorial, 71st to 121st. For the last month, it was packed with illegally planted Vote No signs at entrances to 169, Creek Expwy and Memorial as well as the entrances to the "oh so nice" hoods. Lately there has been a change. The illegal plantings of No's is now joined by the Yes's!! Right next to each other! The hoods are showing more and more yes's as well. This could be a horse race afterall.

For such a serious guy Bear, you make silly claims. Channel Six will welcome the silliness as that's in their mission statement.[]

Sorry Waterboy, my schnauzer is really against this tax.  I ask him not to deface signs, but he's just very, very adamant... and a poor sport. []

You can't "ask" a schnauzer to do anything. You can beg, yell, whistle and honk. They just look at you as if to say..."make me".[]

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

Okay, now I'm incensed. Just saw a schnauzer hike his leg on my Vote Yes sign! As everyone knows, only the rich, tax loving vampire types own this breed. What a great pic that would have made.

I drive all over the South Tulsa area from Jenks to Memorial, 71st to 121st. For the last month, it was packed with illegally planted Vote No signs at entrances to 169, Creek Expwy and Memorial as well as the entrances to the "oh so nice" hoods. Lately there has been a change. The illegal plantings of No's is now joined by the Yes's!! Right next to each other! The hoods are showing more and more yes's as well. This could be a horse race afterall.

For such a serious guy Bear, you make silly claims. Channel Six will welcome the silliness as that's in their mission statement.[]

Sorry Waterboy, my schnauzer is really against this tax.  I ask him not to deface signs, but he's just very, very adamant... and a poor sport. []

You can't "ask" a schnauzer to do anything. You can beg, yell, whistle and honk. They just look at you as if to say..."make me".[]

ELECTRICITY is a good persuader.

Negative Reinforcement every time Fido hikes his leg.

Invented at Tucker Prison Farm, Tucker, ARKANSAS:  An old crank telephone hooked up to misbehavin' prisoners.

Remember Robt. Redford's BRUBAKER?

Actually, the device nicknamed the Tucker Telephone.  

The warder's dreaded prisoner admonition:

"PHONE CALL.......".

LONG distance calls were especially dreaded.

Refined at prisons ALL across the U.S.:

The handy little TASER on stun mode.  

Inflict infinite, excruciating pain while leaving no evidence of abuse.  

How HANDY!

Maybe MH2010 will drop by and loan you his Taser for Fido's obediance training.

Further refined at Abu Graib and Gitmo.  No evidence of mistreatment left behind, except the zombie prisoner.

Delivered along with Sensory deprivation, Sleep deprivation, and waterboarding.  Cracks even the strongest recalcitrant like an egg.  

Ask Mr. Jose Padilla's defense team.  He's a piece of furniture after three years of solitary confinement, sensory deprivation, and sleep deprivation.  

VERY interesting court filings were made in trying to get the case thrown out, claiming "Outrageous Conduct" on behalf of our Government.

http://www.discourse.net/archives/docs/Padilla_Outrageous_Government_Conduct.pdf

WHERE is the moral outrage?

Back in the U.S.,
Back in the U.S.,
Back in the U.S.S.R.

[:O]