Why are Church Leaders silent on the River Tax?

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear


ELECTRICITY is a good persuader.

Negative Reinforcement every time Fido hikes his leg.

Invented at Tucker Prison Farm, Tucker, ARKANSAS:  An old crank telephone hooked up to misbehavin' prisoners.

Remember Robt. Redford's BRUBAKER?

Actually, the device nicknamed the Tucker Telephone.  

The warder's dreaded prisoner admonition:

"PHONE CALL.......".

LONG distance calls were especially dreaded.

Refined at prisons ALL across the U.S.:

The handy little TASER on stun mode.  

Inflict infinite, excruciating pain while leaving no evidence of abuse.  

How HANDY!

Maybe MH2010 will drop by and loan you his Taser for Fido's obediance training.

Further refined at Abu Graib and Gitmo.  No evidence of mistreatment left behind, except the zombie prisoner.

Delivered along with Sensory deprivation, Sleep deprivation, and waterboarding.  Cracks even the strongest recalcitrant like an egg.  

Ask Mr. Jose Padilla's defense team.  He's a piece of furniture after three years of solitary confinement, sensory deprivation, and sleep deprivation.  

VERY interesting court filings were made in trying to get the case thrown out, claiming "Outrageous Conduct" on behalf of our Government.

http://www.discourse.net/archives/docs/Padilla_Outrageous_Government_Conduct.pdf

WHERE is the moral outrage?

Back in the U.S.,
Back in the U.S.,
Back in the U.S.S.R.

[:O]

WHA?!?

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear


ELECTRICITY is a good persuader.

Negative Reinforcement every time Fido hikes his leg.

Invented at Tucker Prison Farm, Tucker, ARKANSAS:  An old crank telephone hooked up to misbehavin' prisoners.

Remember Robt. Redford's BRUBAKER?

Actually, the device nicknamed the Tucker Telephone.  

The warder's dreaded prisoner admonition:

"PHONE CALL.......".

LONG distance calls were especially dreaded.

Refined at prisons ALL across the U.S.:

The handy little TASER on stun mode.  

Inflict infinite, excruciating pain while leaving no evidence of abuse.  

How HANDY!

Maybe MH2010 will drop by and loan you his Taser for Fido's obediance training.

Further refined at Abu Graib and Gitmo.  No evidence of mistreatment left behind, except the zombie prisoner.

Delivered along with Sensory deprivation, Sleep deprivation, and waterboarding.  Cracks even the strongest recalcitrant like an egg.  

Ask Mr. Jose Padilla's defense team.  He's a piece of furniture after three years of solitary confinement, sensory deprivation, and sleep deprivation.  

VERY interesting court filings were made in trying to get the case thrown out, claiming "Outrageous Conduct" on behalf of our Government.

http://www.discourse.net/archives/docs/Padilla_Outrageous_Government_Conduct.pdf

WHERE is the moral outrage?

Back in the U.S.,
Back in the U.S.,
Back in the U.S.S.R.

[:O]

WHA?!?

A mathematical equation may be useful in associating what appear on the surface to be dissimilar topics in this one posting:

The Kaiser River Tax
-
No River Tax Signs Disappearing
+
Our River Tax Signs irrigated by Fido
-
Obediance Training for Fido using Electricity
+
Obediance Training for U.S. Prisoners using Electricity
+
Moral Conundrum of the use of electricity to Torture Prisoners
+
Moral conundrum using torture on prisoners in general
+
Humming the Beatles tune, "Back in the U.S.S.R."
=
Moral conundrum of Supporting a Regressive Sales Tax which Hurts Tulsa's Poor.

Does that help make it any clearer?

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[RecycleMichael]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear
Daytime sign attacks are exclusively reserved for City of Tulsa Publik Werkes Dept., Sign Enforcement unit, and RecycleMichaels Pattonly Potential-Road-Kill Platoon.

Platoon motto:  
Help beautify Tulsa by stepping in front of a speeding Fire Truck.
Ouch!

Are you wishing harm to me and our volunteers?

You seem to really want to be a victim here.

I still think that you are making all this up. I don't think you have had any signs stolen,and if they have been, it is probably by a neighbor who dislikes your bear ways.

You still haven't answered the question...are you even in Tulsa right now?

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear
Daytime sign attacks are exclusively reserved for City of Tulsa Publik Werkes Dept., Sign Enforcement unit, and RecycleMichaels Pattonly Potential-Road-Kill Platoon.

Platoon motto:  
Help beautify Tulsa by stepping in front of a speeding Fire Truck.
Ouch!

Are you wishing harm to me and our volunteers?

You seem to really want to be a victim here.

I still think that you are making all this up. I don't think you have had any signs stolen,and if they have been, it is probably by a neighbor who dislikes your bear ways.

You still haven't answered the question...are you even in Tulsa right now?

Just if any of the ugly volunteers steps in front of a passing Tulsa Fire Truck, that too is city beautification.

It was meant jocularly, of course.

I wish no harm to befall your volunteers.

Absolutely NONE.  

Although, in a perverse sense of justice, the image of self-annointed do-gooders vacumning Vote NO campaign signs getting flattened by a careening 30-ton City Fire Truck does hold some macabre fascination, for some unfathomable reason.....

Therefore, Safety First.  All should tread very carefully in that bar ditch, roadway or median.  It is very dangerous.  

Uh, the city does provide medical insurance for your volunteers, right?

One solitary driver's inattentive moment, dialing their cell phone, could be a tragedy for your volunteers.  

The volunteers are practically on a suicide mission, as many of our suburban two-lane arterial streets, really former county farm-to-market roads, lack even a basic CURB or SIDEWALK to protect pedestrians. And, just bar ditches for drainage.

It's another example of the TULSA PREMIUM, because our rich local, ruling Oligarchy land owners, and the developers have been getting a free ride on city arterial development for about the past 40 years, and the rest of the citizenry has been paying for their greed for the past 27 years:  

The Itty Bitty Third Penny Sales Tax.

Other news:

Current Location:  Ramadi,Irak.

Current Activity:  Cleaning the M249, again.

Voting Status:  Absentee

Housing Status:  Hibernation mode.

NO RIVER TAX Yard Sign Status:  M.I.A.

[8D]

[Double A]

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear
Daytime sign attacks are exclusively reserved for City of Tulsa Publik Werkes Dept., Sign Enforcement unit, and RecycleMichaels Pattonly Potential-Road-Kill Platoon.

Platoon motto:  
Help beautify Tulsa by stepping in front of a speeding Fire Truck.
Ouch!

Are you wishing harm to me and our volunteers?

You seem to really want to be a victim here.

I still think that you are making all this up. I don't think you have had any signs stolen,and if they have been, it is probably by a neighbor who dislikes your bear ways.

You still haven't answered the question...are you even in Tulsa right now?

Only Kathy Taylor gets to play the victim in Spincyle's whirled.

[chesty]

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

Okay, now I'm incensed. Just saw a schnauzer hike his leg on my Vote Yes sign! As everyone knows, only the rich, tax loving vampire types own this breed. What a great pic that would have made.

I drive all over the South Tulsa area from Jenks to Memorial, 71st to 121st. For the last month, it was packed with illegally planted Vote No signs at entrances to 169, Creek Expwy and Memorial as well as the entrances to the "oh so nice" hoods. Lately there has been a change. The illegal plantings of No's is now joined by the Yes's!! Right next to each other! The hoods are showing more and more yes's as well. This could be a horse race afterall.

For such a serious guy Bear, you make silly claims. Channel Six will welcome the silliness as that's in their mission statement.[]

The thing that happened is the date.

Usually 2 weeks before an election a defacto hands off policy goes into effect and the city stops picking up signs from rights-of-way.  Kindof a free speech gentleman's agreement thing.

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by chesty

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

Okay, now I'm incensed. Just saw a schnauzer hike his leg on my Vote Yes sign! As everyone knows, only the rich, tax loving vampire types own this breed. What a great pic that would have made.

I drive all over the South Tulsa area from Jenks to Memorial, 71st to 121st. For the last month, it was packed with illegally planted Vote No signs at entrances to 169, Creek Expwy and Memorial as well as the entrances to the "oh so nice" hoods. Lately there has been a change. The illegal plantings of No's is now joined by the Yes's!! Right next to each other! The hoods are showing more and more yes's as well. This could be a horse race afterall.

For such a serious guy Bear, you make silly claims. Channel Six will welcome the silliness as that's in their mission statement.[]

The thing that happened is the date.

Usually 2 weeks before an election a defacto hands off policy goes into effect and the city stops picking up signs from rights-of-way.  Kindof a free speech gentleman's agreement thing.

This thing was decided in the first two weeks. Any sign advertising or sign shenanigans is pointless by now. I think we're all waiting for someone to "go Gundy" on the thing in public to change any minds.[]

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by chesty

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

Okay, now I'm incensed. Just saw a schnauzer hike his leg on my Vote Yes sign! As everyone knows, only the rich, tax loving vampire types own this breed. What a great pic that would have made.

I drive all over the South Tulsa area from Jenks to Memorial, 71st to 121st. For the last month, it was packed with illegally planted Vote No signs at entrances to 169, Creek Expwy and Memorial as well as the entrances to the "oh so nice" hoods. Lately there has been a change. The illegal plantings of No's is now joined by the Yes's!! Right next to each other! The hoods are showing more and more yes's as well. This could be a horse race afterall.

For such a serious guy Bear, you make silly claims. Channel Six will welcome the silliness as that's in their mission statement.[]

The thing that happened is the date.

Usually 2 weeks before an election a defacto hands off policy goes into effect and the city stops picking up signs from rights-of-way.  Kindof a free speech gentleman's agreement thing.

Maybe there is the hands-off practice in CANDIDATE Elections.

In elections involving raising or renewing Sales or Property taxes, the Tax Vampires are using every way possible to vacumn Vote NO campaign signs.

Includin using RecycleMichael's well-intentioned dopes as dupes.
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[RecycleMichael]

Our group has already stopped.

It is a good time to take a break.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

Our group has already stopped.

It is a good time to take a break.

Stopped when, and until when?

[?]

[tim huntzinger]

Here is an interesting press release: Subject:   River Tax, Other Issues Plaguing Our City

Location:   Sunday, October 7th, 2007 @  3 p.m., Rudisill Library, 1520 North Hartford, Tulsa, Oklahoma

Forum:   The public is invited.  Come out and let your voice be heard, your opinion be known on the "River Tax" and other critical issues plaguing our City.  Everyone is welcome.  Yes supporters!  No supporters!  

Guest
Speakers:   Jack Henderson, Roscoe Turner, David O'Connor, Senator Judy Eason McIntyre, Representative Jabar Shumate, Senator Randy Brogdon, Bishop L. V. Broom, Reverend Warren Blakely

Invitation:   All Ministers and Ministerial Alliance Members

Contact:   Sharon Hanson @ 918-361-5471 or 918-853-9771

Think about that: 'plaguing.'

[Townsend]

quote:Originally posted by tim huntzinger

Here is an interesting press release: Subject:   River Tax, Other Issues Plaguing Our City

Location:   Sunday, October 7th, 2007 @  3 p.m., Rudisill Library, 1520 North Hartford, Tulsa, Oklahoma

Forum:   The public is invited.  Come out and let your voice be heard, your opinion be known on the "River Tax" and other critical issues plaguing our City.  Everyone is welcome.  Yes supporters!  No supporters!  

Guest
Speakers:   Jack Henderson, Roscoe Turner, David O'Connor, Senator Judy Eason McIntyre, Representative Jabar Shumate, Senator Randy Brogdon, Bishop L. V. Broom, Reverend Warren Blakely

Invitation:   All Ministers and Ministerial Alliance Members

Contact:   Sharon Hanson @ 918-361-5471 or 918-853-9771

Think about that: 'plaguing.'

Seems balanced

[tim huntzinger]

But 'plaguing'? I mean, a pox on you and your house for bringing this to our community?  A vile, murderous, pointless pandemic, a killing plague? With all the other problems going on in the neighborhood, this tax is roughly seen as on par with them or at least as divisive.  So, there you have it FB, the Church (or at least some member thereof - most likely the brain) has heard your plea.

Still, it should be nice to see how the congenial State Representative holds up against the Councilors.  Hope someone is there to video the event for the internets and show the whole thing C-Spanesque-like - it is going to get crazy on up in there!

[Townsend]

Sorry Tim, that was sarcasm about the balanced thing.  I was trying to show some Fox News love.

[tim huntzinger]

quote:Originally posted by Townsend

Sorry Tim, that was sarcasm about the balanced thing.  I was trying to show some Fox News love.

Har har! I thought you meant BC Jabar Shumate (sic?) was going to be there.  I hope no one gets into a babyish shouting match and needs to have their hand held to calm them down.

Wonder if this lawsuit is why Richard Roberts has kept his trap shut on the issue.