Police misconduct 2

[dbacksfan 2.0]

Am wondering if there is an attempt going on to knit them all together in a loose alliance.  Their website links to ABATE which was a fairly well focused political group for many years.  Then they kind of got lost in the weeds.....

There is an alliance between the cartels and the OMG's. Los Zetas are linked to the Bandidos.

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/05/20/fbi-report-bandidos-biker-gang-allied-with-los-zetas-cartel/

Interesting report on OMG and gangs in general around the US. I know people that work for this organization and this is a valid report based on LEO information.

http://cryptocomb.org/RMIN%20Gangs%20Report.pdf

[patric]

Every patch I saw....Bandidos, Mongols, Cossacks, etc... are 1%'ers.  You do understand what the means, don't you?

CMA was not represented there.  (Christian Motorcycle Association)

Having said that, it is a very strange set of circumstances where someone got their foot rolled over so started a riot...?  There is still more to this story.  And very real civil rights issues...

Some Christian groups were there (didnt read CMA specifically) as well as groups made up of retired law enforcement, military, etc.
Those arrested included a former police detective as well as a newscaster. 
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/state/headlines/20150519-2-bikers-who-didnt-attend-waco-summit-say-violence-wasnt-planned.ece

If the Texas Confederation of Clubs works like the one here in Oklahoma, they are mostly advocacy groups who also keep any feuding at bay.
...and I agree with Heroin Asparagus, this massacre is going to be a big civil rights issue in the coming weeks and months.

[patric]

As gunfire broke out in the parking lot of a Texas restaurant, dozens of motorcycle riders ran inside seeking cover and tried to guide others to safety, security video reviewed exclusively by The Associated Press showed Wednesday.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-texas-biker-brawl-20150520-story.html
http://www.agingrebel.com/12873

[heironymouspasparagus]

There is an alliance between the cartels and the OMG's. Los Zetas are linked to the Bandidos.

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/05/20/fbi-report-bandidos-biker-gang-allied-with-los-zetas-cartel/

Interesting report on OMG and gangs in general around the US. I know people that work for this organization and this is a valid report based on LEO information.

I think what I am pondering there is not so much that type of alliance - Cossacks were planning on joining one of the others (forgot which one and too lazy right now to look it up...doesn't really matter.)

More along the lines of an agreement to work together on specific fundamental points or items of interest.  Along the lines of the mid-century Mafia, or the European Union.  Not as complete a joining as the various states to make the US.

[patric]

I think what I am pondering there is not so much that type of alliance -
More along the lines of an agreement to work together on specific fundamental points or items of interest.  Along the lines of the mid-century Mafia, or the European Union.  Not as complete a joining as the various states to make the US.

'Criminal Meeting' of Bikers in Waco was Actually Organized Political Gathering.

The group that met was the Texas Confederation of Clubs and Independents (CoC&I) and a look at that group's website and history gives a very different impression of the group's purpose and goals than what has been said repeatedly by Waco police Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton.
"If thirty guys were fighting who were the other 140 that were arrested? The Christian Ministries, the Veterans Clubs, and everyone else who attended a COC meeting aimed at keeping bikers safe, biker legislation, and scheduling biker events? So now your local motorcycle minister is locked up on a 1 million dollar bond."

Eyewitness reports are beginning to paint a very different picture than that the official version from the Waco police.
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/05/21/criminal-meeting-of-bikers-in-waco-was-actually-organized-political-gathering/

[dbacksfan 2.0]

So where did the ~1000 weapons (guns, knives, brass knuckles, chains etc) come from? Or is that a misreporting of the facts?

[patric]

So where did the ~1000 weapons (guns, knives, brass knuckles, chains etc) come from? Or is that a misreporting of the facts?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/inside-twin-peaks-breaking-happened-waco-biker-brawl/story?id=31204067

[heironymouspasparagus]

'Criminal Meeting' of Bikers in Waco was Actually Organized Political Gathering.

The group that met was the Texas Confederation of Clubs and Independents (CoC&I) and a look at that group's website and history gives a very different impression of the group's purpose and goals than what has been said repeatedly by Waco police Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton.
"If thirty guys were fighting who were the other 140 that were arrested? The Christian Ministries, the Veterans Clubs, and everyone else who attended a COC meeting aimed at keeping bikers safe, biker legislation, and scheduling biker events? So now your local motorcycle minister is locked up on a 1 million dollar bond."

Eyewitness reports are beginning to paint a very different picture than that the official version from the Waco police.
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/05/21/criminal-meeting-of-bikers-in-waco-was-actually-organized-political-gathering/

Wouldn't surprise me if there were a police 'agenda' going on here, too.  From the past, activities with ABATE showed that there were some law enforcement types - a lot of them county sheriff deputies - who were shall we say, less than sympathetic to the political goals of that organization.  

Gotta give credit to TPD - after the first couple of years, they were very helpful with events like the Toy Run.  And the National Guard made the armory available for several years of bike show.  Many of the motorcycle officers attended, too.

May as well put in a plug....

http://abateok.clubexpress.com/

[patric]

Wouldn't surprise me if there were a police 'agenda' going on here, too.  From the past, activities with ABATE showed that there were some law enforcement types - a lot of them county sheriff deputies - who were shall we say, less than sympathetic to the political goals of that organization.  

Under Civil forfeiture, your property is guilty until proven innocent.

Throughout Monday night and Tuesday morning, authorities worked to tow 135 motorcycles — many worth close to $20,000 — and 80 vehicles to process them for evidence. Swanton said the tow trucks were being "heavily escorted" by SWAT teams for security. He said some of the motorcycles will be sold at auction.

[Vashta Nerada]

So where did the ~1000 weapons (guns, knives, brass knuckles, chains etc) come from? Or is that a misreporting of the facts?

Just as the story about bikers having a "green light" to kill anyone in uniform, the spokesman simply made it up.



I had to LOL at this:

No reporter bothered to ask Swanton how many of those weapons found inside the steak house were steak knives.
http://www.agingrebel.com/12894


Then there's the $1 Million bond for each of the 177 survivors police bussed off to a convention center for processing.
The irony of that astronomical amount is you would have to be organized crime to afford it.

[Vashta Nerada]

The cop that stood on an unarmed couple's car and shot them to death through their windshield, was found not guilty today.





CLEVELAND (AP) — His footprints were found on the hood of a beat-up Chevy Malibu that had been strafed by police gunfire, killing its two unarmed occupants after a chase over streets and freeways in and around Cleveland.

Yet Officer Michael Brelo told investigators he couldn't remember standing on the hood and firing the final 15 rounds of a 137-shot barrage down into the windshield — even though a rookie cop told those same investigators that Brelo talked about it days afterward.
"It's possible," Brelo allowed when questioned by investigators two weeks after the November 2012 shooting, "because I was so terrified that I was going to get run over."

Brelo, 31, goes on trial Monday on two counts of voluntary manslaughter for the deaths of Timothy Russell, 43, and Malissa Williams, 30. He is the lone officer among the 13 who fired their weapons that night who is charged criminally because prosecutors say he stood on the hood and opened fire four seconds after the other officers had stopped shooting.

The chase started with a failed traffic stop on the edge of downtown by a plainclothes detective who never reported to dispatchers that he'd lost sight of the vehicle. Later, when Russell drove past Cleveland police headquarters, his car backfired. Officers and witnesses standing outside were certain they'd heard gunshots and a police radio call for shots fired triggered an adrenaline-fueled rush by officers to join the chase.

Brelo and his partner were two of the first officers to join the pursuit that ultimately included more than 60 police cars and 104 officers, some who reached speeds at least 100 mph.
Another officer, who said he feared for his life, opened fire, prompting others including Brelo to do the same.
Brelo and his partner fired 15 rounds through their own windshield and told investigators they saw dark objects in Russell's and Williams' hands. Brelo said he left his cruiser because he said he was afraid the Malibu would hit him, even though he then crossed in front of the car to climb on top of another cruiser and open fire again.

"I had leapt trying to get out of the way of this car so it doesn't run me over and kill me," he told investigators.
Investigators eventually concluded that neither Russell nor Williams had a gun.  An exhaustive search was conducted along the route of the pursuit, including the use of a dive team to look in bodies of water, but no gun was ever found.

While Brelo claimed not to remember jumping on the hood, prosecutors have evidence to show that he did. Investigators from the Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation found footprints on the hood of the Malibu that matched a set found on the trunk and roof of a police car that Brelo had climbed on top of to fire from behind the light bar.
A rookie police officer assigned to the same district as Brelo told investigators that he stopped firing after "someone" jumped on the hood of the Malibu. Officer Brian Sabolik said he later learned it was Brelo.

Asked how he found out, Sabolik said: "Because (Brelo) was talking about it."

[Jammie]

I'd posted this in another section of the forum and was glad to find there was discussion on this because I find it so very sad and unfair.

Once again an officer is free to go who was involved in shooting into a vehicle that carried two human beings. As if 122 shots weren't enough, he had to play big boy and get on the hood and shoot straight into their windshield 15 times. I can't imagine what the victims looked like by the time the savages were done with their play time. All of this because their car backfired and the police THOUGHT they were shooting out of their vehicle? As far as fleeing from the police, if I was a different color, I'd more then likely run from them, too. Just so sad and this has to stop

[Vashta Nerada]

Once again an officer is free to go who was involved in shooting into a vehicle that carried two human beings. As if 122 shots weren't enough, he had to play big boy and get on the hood and shoot straight into their windshield 15 times. I can't imagine what the victims looked like by the time the savages were done with their play time. All of this because their car backfired and the police THOUGHT they were shooting out of their vehicle? As far as fleeing from the police, if I was a different color, I'd more then likely run from them, too. Just so sad and this has to stop

Double standard:  Prosecutors couldnt determine which of the 137 bullets fired by the 104 police officers were actually fatal rounds, when a completely opposite standard is being applied to the 170 being held on $1 Million bond (each) for a shooting in Waco.

[Jammie]

They'll come up with any excuse to protect their own. I guess we can call them, "Team players."

Here's an interesting article that mentions the shooting in Tulsa and the four incidents of police shootings in OKC. Of course, there have been many more and they expect there to be at least 1,000 if this continues. I agree with the theory that this isn't escalating, but has always gone unreported or under reported.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fatal-police-shootings-in-2015-approaching-400-nationwide/ar-BBkr9Oc?li=BBieTUX

One part of this story is especially heartbreaking. I'm sure LaVall's mother wishes she'd have just let her disturbed son stand out in the cold vs. calling the police.

"In Miami Gardens, Fla., Catherine Daniels called 911 when she couldn't persuade her son, Lavall Hall, a 25-year-old black man, to come in out of the cold early one morning in February. A diagnosed schizophrenic who stood 5-foot-4 and weighed barely 120 pounds, Hall was wearing boxer shorts and an undershirt and waving a broomstick when police arrived. They tried to stun him with a Taser gun and then shot him."

 Miami Gardens Police Department via Goldberg & Rosen

For anyone who is interested in the injustices that have finally been coming to light the last few years, last night's episode of 48 Hrs. Mysteries on CBS is a "must see." Brevard Co., Florida prosecutor had quite a history of railroading people just so he can claim a win. Sad and pathetic!

[Vashta Nerada]

Here's an interesting article that mentions the shooting in Tulsa and the four incidents of police shootings in OKC. Of course, there have been many more and they expect there to be at least 1,000 if this continues. I agree with the theory that this isn't escalating, but has always gone unreported or under reported.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fatal-police-shootings-in-2015-approaching-400-nationwide/ar-BBkr9Oc?li=BBieTUX

One part of this story is especially heartbreaking. I'm sure LaVall's mother wishes she'd have just let her disturbed son stand out in the cold vs. calling the police.

"In Miami Gardens, Fla., Catherine Daniels called 911 when she couldn't persuade her son, Lavall Hall, a 25-year-old black man, to come in out of the cold early one morning in February. A diagnosed schizophrenic who stood 5-foot-4 and weighed barely 120 pounds, Hall was wearing boxer shorts and an undershirt and waving a broomstick when police arrived. They tried to stun him with a Taser gun and then shot him."

 Miami Gardens Police Department via Goldberg & Rosen

For anyone who is interested in the injustices that have finally been coming to light the last few years, last night's episode of 48 Hrs. Mysteries on CBS is a "must see." Brevard Co., Florida prosecutor had quite a history of railroading people just so he can claim a win. Sad and pathetic!

Not counting Taser deaths, or those from tear gas, choke-holds, positional asphyxia, beating, bludgeoning, or being run over by police cars...

In the first five months of 2015, US police forces fatally shot at least 385 people, The Washington Post reports. That's more than two people per day, and more than double the amount of police killings on record for the last decade.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/31/8694729/police-fatal-killings-america-per-year-fbi-database

Dozens of other people also died while fleeing from police, The Post analysis shows, including a significant proportion — 20 percent — of those who were unarmed. Running is such a provocative act that police experts say there is a name for the injury officers inflict on suspects afterward: a "foot tax."