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Started by cannon_fodder, September 27, 2007, 09:26:15 AM

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AquaMan

Reminds me of 'roid rage. No fun for others when it kicks in. Or are police departments just recruiting linebacker mentalities?
onward...through the fog

patric

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When could he have possibly had time to call the three backup units that quick?





"It is a bit ironic that in January we asked officers to wear a body camera as a study for the possible purchase of some for the entire department, and Jackson was one of the officers who refused," said Orosa.
The police chief said the department has learned that Jackson has been recording many of his traffic stops with citizens that the police department had no knowledge of.
"A citizen has the right to request those recordings to prove their innocence," said Orosa. "The department could be found in violation of the State Public Records Retention laws because of Jackson's actions."

http://www.local10.com/news/miami-police-chief-speaks-about-fight-between-officer-lieutenant/26978448


According to Jackson in an account of what happened as told to a telephone party called "Rick," Ramras never properly identified himself and was uncooperative:



"He's running around trying to pull muscle and rank, but I'm telling him, sir, you can't do that. He's telling me, get the fu*k in your car. I was like, what, who are you talking to?" said Jackson.

"You see God work man. God work and get back at nasty people ... who explained that certain people in his department "don't care too much for me; they've all been after my throat since I've been working here."

"I thought I was gonna get into a shooting, I swear to God ... because I didn't know if he was armed, whether he is a police or not dog. I told the man not to go for no weapons. I said 'don't go for no weapons. Don't you do nothin,' I will shoot you. I told him straight up," Jackson confessed.

Shortly after the 29 minute mark on the extended video, Jackson attempted to take pictures of the scene of the incident but an unseen cop instructed him not to do so, but Jackson protested.

"It's on public display. I can take pictures of whatever is in public," Jackson said in the video.

"We're not going to allow that sh*t to happen here," the unidentified cop warned him. "Put your phone away."

According to a Local 10 report, president of Miami's Fraternal Order of Police, Javier Ortiz, was called to the scene and could be heard in an extended recording saying: "I don't know what the fu*k is going on. I understand what he [Ramras] did, but right now as you can see, it's you against the fu*king world because of who it is, so we're going to get the attorney here and we're going to figure out how we're going to handle this. I don't think we're just going to let this go or anything, you know."

"A complete failure of leadership and command presence. The fact one is a sergeant, lieutenant, captain or an exempt rank, does not invest you with an untouchable aura. In fact, the ranking officer must lead by example and be as courteous as possible. No, it is not weakness, it is strength and the ability to control the situation with aplomb. Orosa, you are a sorry excuse for a police chief!" noted one officer on the website.[/font]
http://www.christianpost.com/news/god-work-and-get-back-at-nasty-people-says-miami-cop-suspended-after-unknowingly-stopping-lieutenant-for-speeding-in-video-123294/

And more:  http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2014/07/14/miami-cop-fearing-termination-altercation-speeding-internal-affairs-lieutenant
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

Vashta Nerada

Quote from: AquaMan on July 16, 2014, 11:01:38 AM
Reminds me of 'roid rage. No fun for others when it kicks in. Or are police departments just recruiting linebacker mentalities?

"The department will spare no effort to make sure nothing like this happens is recorded again."


The candid video offers a unique glimpse into a very secretive and kkklanish subculture.
With apologies to those that had friends and family in the profession; you have to have a serious pre-existing condition to be a cop today.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Vashta Nerada on July 18, 2014, 10:44:11 PM

The candid video offers a unique glimpse into a very secretive and kkklanish subculture.
With apologies to those that had friends and family in the profession; you have to have a serious pre-existing condition to be a cop today.


It goes to the serious pre-existing condition that IS human society today - worldwide, not just this country....  cops are arguably the biggest, most obvious single symptom of our failure as human beings to act in a civilized and social way.  Armies are probably a close second, but not as endemic as law enforcement.


Whew!!   Idealistic thoughts always give me a headache!  I need some tylenol and a shot of whisky!!  Maybe two....


"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

DolfanBob

Changing opinions one mistake at a time.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: DolfanBob on July 21, 2014, 01:30:41 PM
OK. This was posted on Facebook. It's kind of disturbing. Wow!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivgx5x1dob8&feature=youtu.be


One disturbing part is that it is so common as to have made it into mainstream humor....it's accepted by society.



"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

patric

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on July 21, 2014, 02:23:01 PM

One disturbing part is that it is so common as to have made it into mainstream humor....it's accepted by society.

More disturbing are the new tactics some are using to sidestep court rulings:
http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2014/06/03/florida-cop-accuses-cop-watcher-masturbating-car-order-stop-recording/
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

heironymouspasparagus

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

DolfanBob

You can't even attend a ball game without Police action ruining it. They really don't like you to recite your rights. Even if you are a little lit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY0_ysHCr5I
Changing opinions one mistake at a time.

heironymouspasparagus

Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you....

Never relax!!  Always look behind you!!  They ARE gonna get ya!!



"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Vashta Nerada

Quote from: DolfanBob on July 25, 2014, 10:18:58 AM
You can't even attend a ball game without Police action ruining it. They really don't like you to recite your rights. Even if you are a little lit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY0_ysHCr5I

The cop's "lawful orders" ceased being lawful the second he injected violence into a non-violent situation.

These days, the only way a cop can win a verbal argument is with a physical assault.
Violence is the answer, if you have the right union.

DolfanBob

Medical Examiner say's the Cops chokehold killed him. This could get very interesting.
Oh and Al Sharpton is getting everybody riled up.  ::)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2713576/Official-Police-chokehold-caused-NYC-mans-death.html
Changing opinions one mistake at a time.

Vashta Nerada

Quote from: DolfanBob on August 01, 2014, 04:08:00 PM
Medical Examiner say's the Cops chokehold killed him. This could get very interesting.
Oh and Al Sharpton is getting everybody riled up.  ::)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2713576/Official-Police-chokehold-caused-NYC-mans-death.html


Same thing happens here
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/26/justice/oklahoma-arrest-death-video/
there's video of police asphyxiating a man to death, and the Medical Examiner concurs.

What's the difference here?  The Okie D.A. decides he wont infuriate the police union by filing charges.

Vashta Nerada

Quote from: DolfanBob on August 01, 2014, 04:08:00 PM
Medical Examiner say's the Cops chokehold killed him. This could get very interesting.


QuoteThe head of the police union went before the media to complain that the officer that killed Garner was "distraught" at the thought of being held accountable for the death.

"No one wants to have to deal with the fact that someone died because of something they had to do" said union boss Pat Lynch.
On Friday, the Medical Examiner ruled Garner died as a result of a choke hold, but Lynch said Garner might still be alive if he hadn't resisted arrest.
NYPD Officer Daniel Pantaleo is the one seen on video placing Eric Garner in an illegal choke hold.

Meanwhile, the man who shot the video of the death was himself arrested last Sunday.

"Police say 22-year-old Ramsey Orta was taken into custody not far from where the Garner incident occurred.
Officers say they saw Orta tuck an unloaded handgun into the waistband of a female.   
He was later taken to Staten Island University Hospital for an undisclosed reason." 

If that isnt enough, another video emerged of NYPD forcing their way into an old lady's apartment and dragging her out naked.
They claimed they were concerned for the welfare of children they saw inside, which they eventually pepper-sprayed.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/nypd-officers-drag-naked-brooklyn-woman-apartment-video-article-1.1889292



Vashta Nerada

QuoteNEW YORK (AP) — Mayor Bill de Blasio on Tuesday defended a medical examiner's ruling that a man was killed by neck compressions caused by a police officer's chokehold, while the powerful police union representing rank-and-file officers called the death report "political."

Speaking at a news conference just minutes after Patrolmen's Benevolent Association President Patrick Lynch denied that Officer Daniel Pantaleo used a chokehold while attempting to arrest Eric Garner on July 17, de Blasio told reporters that the city's medical examiner's office was "the gold standard in this country" for medical science.

Last week, the medical examiner ruled Garner's death a homicide, saying it was caused by neck compressions from the chokehold and "the compression of his chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police" the medical examiner said.

Video of the arrest shows that Garner, 43, who officers claimed was selling loose cigarettes, told the officers taking him into custody that he was being harassed. He shook his arm free from an officer's grasp before he was placed into the chokehold and brought to the ground.

In the video, he can be heard complaining that he can't breathe.

Both the police commissioner and the mayor have said it appears a chokehold was used. Chokeholds are banned under New York Police Department policy.

On Tuesday, Lynch disputed the findings, telling reporters that Garner had been warned by officers the week before his death to stop selling the cigarettes and denying that race played any role in the confrontation, as the Rev. Al Sharpton and others have said.

Sharpton on Tuesday reiterated his call for a federal investigation into Garner's death.

De Blasio, who stressed that he had "immense respect" for the NYPD, also addressed comments made by the head of the union representing sergeants, who sarcastically suggested a supervising officer should oversee every arrest made.

"Union leader say what union leaders say," de Blasio said when asked about Sergeant's Benevolent Association President Ed Mullins' comments. "I don't let the rhetoric of union leaders get in the way of getting job done."

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Mayor-rebuts-NYPD-unions-after-custody-death-5669607.php?





QuoteOn the day of his death, bystanders say Garner was breaking up a fight when he caught the eye of the police. The NYPD claims officers had previously targeted Garner for selling untaxed, individual cigarettes. Garner wanted to know why he was being harassed, and he paid for that query with his life. In America, we're not supposed kill people for questioning an officer, or for speaking up for themselves – except, of course, when we do.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/what-killed-eric-garner