POLL: 85% say NO

[patric]

Sunday nights FOX23 flash poll indicated 85% of respondents intend to vote no on Tuesday's tax question.  It's an unscientific poll (but probably as valid as anything the Whirled is pimping).

[rwarn17588]

If it's unscientific, then it's not valid, plain and simple.

You won't see voters in an election go 85 percent for or against ANYTHING.

Even that dope Ernie Istook managed to get a third of the vote as governor, even though he ran a terrible campaign against a powerful and popular incumbent.

[waterboy]

A flash poll could be the same two people calling over and over. And probably is. But getting that headline on the forum thread was the intent.

The poll reported in the world was done by a professional polling company in cooperation with the University of Tulsa. But of course they are all in the conspiracy eh?

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

If it's unscientific, then it's not valid, plain and simple.

You won't see voters in an election go 85 percent for or against ANYTHING.

Even that dope Ernie Istook managed to get a third of the vote as governor, even though he ran a terrible campaign against a powerful and popular incumbent.

Didn't the recent road builder-sponsored 5 cent increase in fuel taxes fail by over 80% AGAINST?

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by twizzler

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

If it's unscientific, then it's not valid, plain and simple.

You won't see voters in an election go 85 percent for or against ANYTHING.

Even that dope Ernie Istook managed to get a third of the vote as governor, even though he ran a terrible campaign against a powerful and popular incumbent.

Didn't the recent road builder-sponsored 5 cent increase in fuel taxes fail by over 80% AGAINST?

It failed by 87%.

However, the Fox23 poll is still highly un-scientific.

Fox23 could poll on the same thing every day and get different results. I think half the people dial in just to heard Cheri Kimiko (sp?).

[Conan71]

Hell, even exit polls are flawed.  The only one which counts will have the results revealed by Weds. morning.

[Noodlez]

The lunch time Fox23 poll was the same and got 75% no. Guess less no people have time to redial over and over at lunch. Maybe there out enjoying the river.. []

[Ibanez]

I know 5 people here at work that went to the election board on their lunch hour to vote.

None of them voted yes.

[cannon_fodder]

I know six that voted yes!  

(not really, but such discussions are silly at this point.  We'll find out in about 15 hours).

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

I know six that voted yes!  

(not really, but such discussions are silly at this point.  We'll find out in about 15 hours).

Oh yeah, well I know a ginormous amount of people who are going to vote no. []

[TheArtist]

I have only managed to watch FOX 23 a few times. It was a horroble experience each time. The flash polls I saw were worded terribly. I cant imagine what kind of people watch FOX 23 news but I am sure they have their demographic just like any news or tv show. Ever seen one of those court tv shows (you know the ones where the girl is saying "I know he is the daddy! but the test restults show it wasnt him, or the next guy she thinks it might be, or the next, or the next..." notice how many lawyer, career point, get a loan fast, one dollar a month phone service, etc. commercials there are lol?  I bet if they asked the local audience of one of those shows the same poll question they would get an 85% no vote as well. []

I cants affowd it. I dont wants no fancy islands in the river no how. They crazy? Its just gonna flood.

[sgrizzle]

I know three people who are all going to vote, so there!

I watched fox23 and saw their flash poll. I tested their system and the "yes" number was busy. I also noticed they did a segment called "decoding the truth in the advertising campaigns for and against the river." They pointed out one inaccuracy in the yes campaign and didn't ever discuss the no campaign.

Fair AND balanced.

[patric]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

I also noticed they did a segment called "decoding the truth in the advertising campaigns for and against the river." They pointed out one inaccuracy in the yes campaign and didn't ever discuss the no campaign.

I didnt know the NO side even had a TV commercial.
Anyway, the conducted two more polls Monday at 5pm and 9pm, and got NO 80% and 85% respectively.

[waterboy]

Their ad campaign is primarily PR and tapping into the Fox pool of aginner's. They have dominated The Beacon, Idiot Radio, UT, this Forum, Northside events etc.

I saw the Fox23 "decoding the truth in advertising" segment. Grizz is right. They didn't bother to expose the no arguments. No wonder their troops continue to vote no. All 12 of them.

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by twizzler

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

Their ad campaign is primarily PR and tapping into the Fox pool of aginner's. They have dominated The Beacon, Idiot Radio, UT, this Forum, Northside events etc.

I saw the Fox23 "decoding the truth in advertising" segment. Grizz is right. They didn't bother to expose the no arguments. No wonder their troops continue to vote no. All 12 of them.

There are also not great numbers of people included in "The Beacon, Idiot Radio, UT, this Forum, Northside events etc." camps either. So if this is voted down, as it seems it will be, there will be a majority of 'no' votes coming from outside of those influences. Which speaks more to how poorly the tax (not the projects) was set up than to anything else.

As usual you draw conclusions that match your pre-conceived stance. It also could reflect how poorly informed the populace is and prefers to be, how poorly educated in the operations of government they are, and how poorly they are served by tragically partisan media. It all leads to an easily manipulated electorate.

You know as well as I do that the Fox23 poll should not have even been called a poll. The sarcastic remark about "all 12 of them" refers to the fact that they have very little viewership, and the "poll" was most likely not even representative of that viewership, much less a sampling of the community. For instance, I often watch their news. After seeing their "poll" that is embarrassing to admit.