Oklahoma lawmaker shows prejudice against Islam

[Ed W]

This is one of those double-edged sword moments.  If we believe that people are free to spread the word about their religious beliefs, then others must be equally free to simply say no.  Further, they are free to be rude dicks about it.

I can only assume these guys have very few Muslim constituents.

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by MichaelC

quote:Originally posted by guido911

Oh, so I am like those persons in Little Dixie you criticize? You do not even know me. Oh, and since you decided to ignore my post to RW and resort to ad hominem, you are also a coward bomb thrower. Perhaps you should leave this thread, big people are communicating.

Wow, you're not even close.

I never criticized the folks of Clayton, OK, or you.  "Little Dixie" is their nickname, and apparently this politician was speaking to you.  Just relaying info, it's all there, nothing I said about Clayton is untrue.  Go check it out yourself.  And if you didn't like what the politician did, you've got a crazy way of showing it.  Crazy.

I do not care what the politician did. If he is offended by the Koran, that's his issue. His constituents, of which I am not, will judge him a decide whether to reelect him.

If you look at my comment that began this tete a tete, I was responding to yet another bozo comparing the violence and murder of modern Islam to that of historic Christianity. RW thought it was important to inject Confederate flag wavers, Eric Rudolf, and you had to inject "little Dixie" BS as if that compares to Islamic terrorists to bolster that inane canard.

As far as visiting "little Dixie", I travel down there often and, nope, never saw or heard of any beheadings or suicide bombings.

[Breadburner]

quote:Originally posted by Ed W

This is one of those double-edged sword moments.  If we believe that people are free to spread the word about their religious beliefs, then others must be equally free to simply say no.  Further, they are free to be rude dicks about it.

I can only assume these guys have very few Muslim constituents.

Excellent point....

[MichaelC]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

I do not care what the politician did. If he is offended by the Koran, that's his issue. His constituents, of which I am not, will judge him a decide whether to reelect him.

If you look at my comment that began this tete a tete, I was responding to yet another bozo comparing the violence and murder of modern Islam to that of historic Christianity. RW thought it was important to inject Confederate flag wavers, Eric Rudolf, and you had to inject "little Dixie" BS as if that compares to Islamic terrorists to bolster that inane canard.

As far as visiting "little Dixie", I travel down there often and, nope, never saw or heard of any beheadings or suicide bombings.

Who cares?  Maybe it's your guilty conscience, maybe you're a flat out racist, maybe you've taken part in a lynching somewhere.  I don't know.  I never made that comparison, you did.  

I've said all along, this was a political move.  And I've laid out who this particular guy is pandering to.  There are plenty of people in this state that think what he did was just fine.  Just as you do.  

And as insane as you sound, you're probably in good company.

By the way, know where "Little Dixie" comes from?  Check wiki.

[Rage]

quote: I tell you what.....you go over to the Middle East and try to hand out the Bible. Lets see how well you are received.

I live there lol and I go to TU... I have many Christan firends like myslef and many others that attend ORU... Or UAI also known as...

I can't belive u have the nerves to say that.

No wonder your state schools suck and that the best choice of school you can offered is your average TCC...

Dont close your eyes and listen to the Devil speak... Wake up and read and learn...

It's a Gift... Take it... U just look like a racist when u decline it...

[perspicuity85]

quote:Originally posted by tulsapoolplyr88

I tell you what.....you go over to the Middle East and try to hand out the Bible.  Lets see how well you are received.

There are racist ignorant people in every religion and every country.  Fortunately, we live in the United States, where those that represent government are required not to discriminate against peoples' religions.  If the US was a Christian theocracy, you would have a good point.

[guido911]

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Who cares?  Maybe it's your guilty conscience, maybe you're a flat out racist, maybe you've taken part in a lynching somewhere.  I [/quote]

FU jackass

[carltonplace]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

Sounds like someone has never taken a history class.
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Exactly. History class. Unfortnuately, the middle east is stuck in history, whereas this Country and the majority of civilized society is living in the present.
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You don't have to go that far back in history to find examples of "Christians" persecuting others. The last century was replete with examples from Hitler to abortion center bombings to hate crimes against minorities.

[rwarn17588]

Yep. The KKK was notorious for being a "religious" group, believe it or not.

It's a credit to our nation that we finally got past -- for the most part -- such stupid, embarrassing and frankly violent views about people with different skin colors or creeds.

[Steve]

The Tulsa World reports this morning that 16 more state legislators have joined in this show of ignorance and refused copies of the Quran.

Why can't these dolts just graciously accept the copy and move on?  Just because they are given a copy doesn't mean they have to read it or live by what it says.  Besides, they could use it as a reference book the next time someone quotes the Quran and they feel the rare need to double check the facts.

I think these guys are pandering to conservative fundamentalist Christian thinking, which in many ways is just as scary as radical Islam.

[Conan71]

Rex Duncan is showing great ignorance.  Out of the, what, 1.5 billion or so muslims around the world, it's a very, very small minority who are intent on extinguishing America and the Christian faith.  

A wise man would have graciously accepted it.  If he didn't like it or it offended his faith, he could burn it, trash it, re-gift it, or sell it on eBay.  

He certainly has a right to not accept it, but he looks like a total putz.

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

Yep. The KKK was notorious for being a "religious" group, believe it or not.

It's a credit to our nation that we finally got past -- for the most part -- such stupid, embarrassing and frankly violent views about people with different skin colors or creeds.

Not according to Michael C.  Hell, the principles of the KKK are apparently alive and well in "little dixie" (also known as south eastern Oklahoma where according to Michael C the worst of this state reside) if you buy his garbage.  

RW:  Still peddling that Christians are as bad as Muslim terrorists stuff huh? I bet you enjoyed the heck out of CNN's God's Warriors.

[MichaelC]

The so-called KKK of today is still highly "Christian".  I'd assume some Neo-Nazi groups are too, though, most Christians are in complete denial about those sort of things.  Depending on who you talk to, some have a hard time counting Baptists as Christians, much less Klan.  

It's just the way it works.  For many Christians; If you're right about the ideology, that means everyone else is eternally and infinitely  wrong.  You might have coffee with the guy, but you're not going to buy a ticket for his slow boat to hell.

But, I'm certain that if you really dig into parts of SE Oklahoma, you'll find plenty of "Klan" or true Klan-sympathizers, and then other folks with various ties to the ideology.    Can't say for sure on the rest of Oklahoma.

[Steve]

quote:Originally posted by Steve

The Tulsa World reports this morning that 16 more state legislators have joined in this show of ignorance and refused copies of the Quran.

Why can't these dolts just graciously accept the copy and move on?  Just because they are given a copy doesn't mean they have to read it or live by what it says.  Besides, they could use it as a reference book the next time someone quotes the Quran and they feel the rare need to double check the facts.

I think these guys are pandering to conservative fundamentalist Christian thinking, which in many ways is just as scary as radical Islam.

Just to add, the article is on the front page of today's World, lists the 16 joining Duncan including these Tulsa-area state legislators:

Randy Brogdon, Owasso
Bill Brown, Broken Arrow
Nancy Riley, Tulsa
David Derby, Owasso
Mark McCullough, Sapulpa

All of the 16 are Republicans except for Riley, a Democrat.  I am glad none of my representatives have made the list, at least not yet.

[MichaelC]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

Not according to Michael C.  Hell, the principles of the KKK are apparently alive and well in "little dixie" (also known as south eastern Oklahoma where according to Michael C the worst of this state reside) if you buy his garbage.

There are plenty of fine folks in SE Oklahoma, there are plenty in Clayton.  Nearly all my relatives hail from SE Oklahoma, some of them are Reconstruction, "Little Dixie", transplants from Georgia.  And I've spent enough time there, and lived there long enough to know who and what is on the ground.

You are very much coming off as insane.  No sane person would make your case, say what you've said, and be serious about it.